The problem "Congratulations! You just bought a brand new iron rod ..."

The problem is "Congratulations! You just bought a brand new iron rod that has a length of 1 lightyear. Now, suppose you pushed one end of the rod. About how much time will pass before the other end moves?"

This ignores the fact that the far end of the rod can move immediately to the "side." That is, the rod is apparently assumed indirectly to be rigid to the sides. In fact, the rod would twist/stretch/shorten differently at different spots etc. So the answer is "immediately."

#Mechanics

Note by Kelly Waters
5 years, 8 months ago

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Hi Kelly, it is best to join the solution discussion of the problem, as opposed to writing up a note about it. Then everyone can see the response to your concerns.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

Don't you mean, "Probably never"? If we had a real iron rod a light year long, it would be so extremely flexible because of its slenderness, we'd have a hard time distinguishing the one disturbance at the other end that's actually due to the rod being pushed at the base end. But physics is often like that. First, we consider a mathematically ideal rod with infinite stiffness, then we consider a slightly less ideal rod where it's only longitudinally flexible, then we start getting into real rods which have more in common with cooked spaghetti strands. String theory, anyone?

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 8 months ago

Infinitely stiff was not assumed.

Kelly Waters - 5 years, 8 months ago

I mean to point out that when analyzing a physics situation, we often make some simplifying assumptions, such as assuming only longitudinal flexibility. In other words, you're assuming a too-realistic iron rod, in which case we can probably forget about trying to talk about what happens at the other end of an iron rod a light year long!

Michael Mendrin - 5 years, 8 months ago

there is space between molecules of matter.

yogesh mahavaria - 5 years, 8 months ago
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