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nice man! i didnt think of this and tried logs! :D
If a < b, than how can we say 5a > b .. Above, a = 5^12 and b = 2^28
This was my original intent :)
I simply used a calculator, put in all the options successively :)
Just because 5 1 2 < 2 2 8 doesn't mean that 5 1 3 > 2 2 8 . To complete your proof, state that 5 4 > 2 7 and multiply the inequalities 5 4 ⋅ 5 3 ⋅ 5 3 ⋅ 5 3 = 5 1 3 > 2 7 ⋅ 2 7 ⋅ 2 7 ⋅ 2 7 = 2 2 8 .
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Why would the 5 4 > 2 7 statement be enough? It doesn't seem it covers it fully. I'm not sure there's a proof that goes directly to 13 as a sum to the 28. One way to do this would be to note that 5 1 4 > 2 2 8 since 2 2 8 = ( 2 2 ) 1 4 = 4 1 4 and 5 > 4 . Then you're left with either 13 or 14, and you can calculate to test it.
A very nice solution
nice
what a romantic solution! :))
i was near just stuck at 5th step :(
i too tried logs
good one...
I have tried for 5^1>2^2.. Damn!!!
really very nice...the only catch in this reasoning is that if a^x>b and a^y>b, then equating x and y would fail if we deal with rational numbers.
I never thought that this problem could be solved so easily.
It's great.
nice one!!!!!!!!
I wrote a problem almost exactly like this, except it actually used logarithms. Nice solution, though. :)
Jaja damm.... I did the same but imao I did It wrong at the end haha I though it was 42 haha I got it bad because I didn't pay attention.
i try logs, but i dont know how much log0.4 is.So.........
We simply apply the logarithmic method.
so,
5^n > 10^28
(log both the sides)
= log (5^n) > log (10^28)
= n (log 5) > 28
= n > 28 / (log 5)
= n > 40.0589...
Therefore, n = 41 is the minimum
Good.
You need to note the monotonicity of the logarithm function to verify the transformation of the inequality.
great lol
Taking log 10 of both sides, we have n lo g 5 > 2 8 lo g 1 0 = 2 8 ⇒ n > lo g 5 2 8 . Since lo g 5 is just nearly under 1 0 7 , we have n > 4 0 . s o m e , so the least integer that satisfies this is ⌈ 4 0 . s o m e ⌉ , which is creary (hopefully?) 4 1
(Note that an exacter (?) value of lo g 5 can be found using a calculator, and that it is a good idea to memorise that lo g 5 is slightly under 1 0 7 (if you haven't already))
For 5^n > 10^ 28, we require n log 5 > 28( log 10 ) > 28 * 1 therefore n > 28/log 5 > 28/.7 > 40 Therefore smallest n = 41
5^n>〖10〗^28 5^n>2^28.5^28 5^n/5^28 >2^28 5^(n-28)>〖〖(2〗^2)〗^14 5^(n-28)>4^14 Because 5^13>4^14. So n – 28 = 13, Thus n = 13 + 28 = 41. Answer : 41
I found a way to improve this solution a bit..The title of the question solves the problem.
5 n > 1 0 2 8 ⟹ 5 n > 5 2 8 ⋅ 2 2 8
This implies that we are looking for a k such that
5 k > 2 2 8 = ( 2 7 ) 4 = ( 1 2 8 ) 4 = ( 1 2 5 + 3 ) 4 = ( 5 3 + 3 ) 4 = ( 5 1 2 + 4 ∗ 5 9 ∗ 3 + 6 ∗ 5 6 ∗ 3 2 + 4 ∗ 5 3 ∗ 3 3 + 3 4 )
This considerably reduces the number of cases to check,as the left hand side must be greater than the first term of the expansion( 5 1 2 ) .
I did in the same way.. :)
By taking log on both the sides, we get
n log5 > 28 log10
n*log5 > 28
n > 28 / log5
n > 40.2
Hence n = 41
Let 5^n=10^28 then take Lin for both sides .. you will get n * lin 5=28 * lin 10 then n = 40.05894363 add (0.94105637) to get the integer of 41
just added all digits found above of the question "128=125+3". Its 1+2+8+1+2+5+3=22. Then, just count from the top to bottom until reaching 22. Voila, click the answer and got it. :)
5^{n} > 10^{28) Take log for both sides
nlog5 > 28log10 divide by log5 (log10 = 1)
n > 28/{log5} which is approximately equals 40
then the least integer value of n = 41
Take the lo g of both sides to the base 1 0 . We have n lo g ( 5 ) > 2 8 ⇒ n > lo g ( 5 ) 2 8 ⇒ n > 4 0 . 0 5 ⋯ . The least integer satisfying this is 4 1 .
Taking 28th root and log to the base 10 on both sides we get n>28/log5. log5 is approx. 0.69 hence n>40..
Well, obviously 5 n > 1 0 2 8 ⇒ 5 n − 2 8 > 2 2 8 . Now, if we apply the natural log function on both sides we get
n = ⌈ 2 8 + ln 5 ln 2 2 8 ⌉ = 4 1
Take log to base 10 on both sides, thus n*0.6990>28. With a reasonable degree of approximation we can see n=41 or 40 which can be checked in the event of uncertainty yielding n=41
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5 n > 1 0 2 8
5 n > ( 5 × 2 ) 2 8
5 n > 5 2 8 × 2 2 8
5 n − 2 8 > 2 2 8
Note that 5 3 < 2 7 .
Have both sides multiplied to the fourth power, then 5 1 2 < 2 2 8 .
Therefore, 5 1 3 > 2 2 8
Since n - 28 = 13, then n = 41