2 Geometric Progressions

Algebra Level 2

1 + 1 r + 1 r 2 + 1 r 3 + 1 r 4 + = 1 1 s + 1 s 2 1 s 3 + 1 s 4 + 1 + \frac{1}{r} + \frac{1}{r^2} + \frac{1}{r^3} + \frac{1}{r^4} + \cdots \\ { \LARGE =} \\ 1 - \frac{1}{s} + \frac{1}{s^2} - \frac{1}{s^3} + \frac{1}{s^4} + \cdots \\

What is the relationship between r r and s s ?

r + s = 0 r+s = 0 r + s = 1 r + s = 1 r s = 0 rs = 0 r s = 1 rs = 1

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Hung Woei Neoh
Jun 26, 2016

Relevant wiki: Geometric Progression Sum

1 + 1 r + 1 r 2 + 1 r 3 + 1 r 4 + = 1 1 s + 1 s 2 1 s 3 + 1 s 4 1+\dfrac{1}{r}+\dfrac{1}{r^2}+\dfrac{1}{r^3}+\dfrac{1}{r^4} + \ldots = 1-\dfrac{1}{s}+\dfrac{1}{s^2}-\dfrac{1}{s^3}+\dfrac{1}{s^4} - \ldots

Notice that the LHS is the sum of a geometric progression to infinity, where a = 1 a=1 and r = 1 r r=\dfrac{1}{r}

Similarly, notice that the RHS is also the sum of another geometric progression to infinity, where a = 1 a=1 and r = 1 s r=-\dfrac{1}{s}

Therefore, we can replace these two sides of the equation with the formula for sums of GP to infinity:

1 1 1 r = 1 1 ( 1 s ) 1 r 1 r = 1 s + 1 s r r 1 = s s + 1 r ( s + 1 ) = s ( r 1 ) r s + r = r s s r + s = 0 \dfrac{1}{1-\frac{1}{r}} = \dfrac{1}{1-\left(-\frac{1}{s}\right)}\\ \dfrac{1}{\frac{r-1}{r}} = \dfrac{1}{\frac{s+1}{s}}\\ \dfrac{r}{r-1} = \dfrac{s}{s+1}\\ r(s+1)=s(r-1)\\ rs+r=rs-s\\ \boxed{r+s=0}

I'm glad to see such sensible solutions. I was afraid someone would say compare the second term to get 1 r = 1 s \frac{1}{r} = - \frac{1}{s} , but just that condition isn't sufficient.

Chung Kevin - 4 years, 11 months ago

Let s = x s = -x . The alternating sum becomes the sum of all inverse powers of x x , with no alternating signs; compare it with the series for r r , and you can match every power of x x with every power of r r ; thus, r = x r = x , which means r = s r = -s , or r + s = 0 r + s = 0 .

Sakif Ahmed
Jun 25, 2016

The common ratio for the L.H.S of the equation is 1 r ÷ 1 = 1 r \frac{1}{r}÷1=\frac{1}{r} , while that of the R.H.S of the equation is 1 s ÷ 1 = 1 s \frac{-1}{s}÷1=\frac{-1}{s} .

So, sum of the geometric infinite series in L.H.S of the equation= 1 1 1 r = r r 1 \frac{1}{1-\frac{1}{r}}=\frac{r}{r-1} .

And the sum of the series in the R.H.S= 1 ( 1 + 1 s ) = s s + 1 \frac{1}{(1+\frac{1}{s})}=\frac{s}{s+1} .

So, L . H . S = R . H . S L.H.S=R.H.S

r r 1 = s s + 1 \Rightarrow \frac{r}{r-1}=\frac{s}{s+1}

r s + r = r s s \Rightarrow rs+r=rs-s

r + s = 0 \Rightarrow r+s=0

The other answers are great, but I'll leave my two cents here as well.

1 + 1 r + 1 r 2 + 1 r 3 + = 1 1 s + 1 s 2 1 s 3 + 1 + \dfrac{1}{r} + \dfrac{1}{r^{2}} + \dfrac{1}{r^{3}} + \ldots = 1 - \dfrac{1}{s} + \dfrac{1}{s^{2}} - \dfrac{1}{s^{3}} + \ldots

We can try to write the progression using sigma notation:
k = 1 r k = k = 1 s k \displaystyle\sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} r^{-k} = \sum_{k = 1}^{\infty} -s^{-k}

Then we use the formula for the sum of infinite geometric series:
1 1 r k = 1 1 + s k \dfrac{1}{1 - r^{-k}} = \dfrac{1}{1 + s^{-k}}

Simplify a bit:
1 r k = 1 + s k 1 - r^{-k} = 1 + s^{-k}
r k = s k - r^{-k} = s^{-k}

Transform it into logs:
log r s k = k \log_{-r} s^{-k} = -k

Use some log properties to simplify it even further:
k log r s = k -k \cdot \log_{-r} s = -k
log r s = 1 \log_{-r} s = 1
r = s -r = s

And now we arrive at the answer:
r + s = 0 r + s = 0

Moderator note:

Note that the parts after "Then we use the formula for the sum of infinite geometric series: " are incorrect. You will notice that there is no k k in the original problem, so you should question how you arrived at 1 1 r k = 1 1 + s k \dfrac{1}{1 - r^{-k}} = \dfrac{1}{1 + s^{-k}} .

As a response to the Challenge's Master note:

I used k k with sigma notation to show both infinite series, and then after that I used the formula for the sum of infinite series a 1 r \dfrac{a}{1-r} , where r < 1 \left| r \right| < 1 .
I don't see where's the error.

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 11 months ago

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