3-4-5 Square

Geometry Level 3

The diagram above illustrates a square divided into four different-colored triangles, three of them with numbers given as their respective areas.

What is the area of the whole square?

If your result can be expressed in the form a ( b + c d ) , a\left(b + c\sqrt{d}\right), where a , b , c , d a,b,c,d are all positive integers, gcd ( b , c ) = 1 , \gcd(b,c) = 1, and d d is square-free, input a + b + c + d a + b + c + d as your answer.


The answer is 14.

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3 solutions

Maximos Stratis
Jun 6, 2017

Let k k be the side of the square, l l the bottom left side, m m the bottom right side, n n the right bottom side, o o the right top side.
Since, it's a square it's true that:
l + m = k l+m=k and n + o = k n+o=k
1 2 k l = 4 l = 8 k \frac{1}{2}kl=4\Rightarrow l=\frac{8}{k}
l + m = k m = k 2 8 k l+m=k\Rightarrow m=\frac{k^{2}-8}{k}
1 2 m n = 5 n = 10 k k 2 8 \frac{1}{2}mn=5\Rightarrow n=\frac{10k}{k^{2}-8}
n + o = k o = k 3 18 k k 2 8 n+o=k\Rightarrow o=\frac{k^{3}-18k}{k^{2}-8}
1 2 k o = 3 k k 3 18 k k 2 8 = 6 k 4 24 k 2 + 48 = 0 \frac{1}{2}ko=3\Rightarrow k\frac{k^{3}-18k}{k^{2}-8}=6\Rightarrow k^{4}-24k^{2}+48=0
The discriminant is:
D = 2 4 2 4 48 = 384 = 64 6 D = 8 6 D=24^{2}-4*48=384=64*6\Rightarrow \sqrt{D}=8\sqrt{6}
k 2 = 24 ± 8 6 2 k^{2}=\frac{24\pm 8\sqrt{6}}{2}\Rightarrow
k 2 = 12 ± 4 6 k^{2}=12\pm 4\sqrt{6}
If we use the negative sign, we see that k 2 = 4 ( 3 6 ) 2.2 k^{2}=4(3-\sqrt{6})\approx 2.2
That can not be the case since k 2 k^{2} is the area of the square which can not be less than 3.
Therefor:
k 2 = 12 + 4 6 k^{2}=12+4\sqrt{6}\Rightarrow
k 2 = 4 ( 3 + 6 ) k^{2}=4(3+\sqrt{6})
So:
a = 4 \boxed{a=4} b = 3 \boxed{b=3} c = 1 \boxed{c=1} d = 6 \boxed{d=6}
And the answer is 14 \boxed{14}


Note: Sorry that i've skipped over some tedious algebra

14 cannot be the area of square

Umair Ahmad - 3 years, 12 months ago

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14 is not the area of the square! The area of the square is A = 4 (3 + 1 x SQUROOT 6), and the digits 4, 3, 1 and 6 add up to 14, Respectfully yours, David

David Fairer - 3 years, 6 months ago

I agree....14 does not seem correct.... I thought maybe 19

Joe McKeown - 3 years, 12 months ago

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Hehe. How did you get that? :)

Michael Huang - 3 years, 12 months ago

maybe provide a solution so we could see it ourselves :)

maximos stratis - 3 years, 12 months ago

area=k^2=12+4xsqrt(6)=12+4x2.45=21.8

Arik Pena - 3 years, 12 months ago

Let X be the side of the square. Triangle with area of 3... X 6/X 0.5=3 So short side is 6/X Equaly for triangle 4, short side is 8/X For triangle 5... 0.5(X-6/X)(X-8/X)=5 X⁴-24X²+48=0 Let A be the area of the square, A=X² Α²−24A+48=0 A=½(24±√24²−4*48) A=21.79 –

Amitai Amir - 3 years, 12 months ago

Your solution is fine as it is! The point of skipping all the algebra is to avoid the tedious-reading of the solution. So far, you have done very well! :)

Michael Huang - 4 years ago

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Thank you sir!

maximos stratis - 4 years ago

Let X be the side of the square. Triangle with area of 3... X 6/X 0.5=3 So short side is 6/X Equaly for triangle 4, short side is 8/X For triangle 5 0.5(X-6/X)(X-8/X)=5 X⁴-24X²+48=0 Let A be the area of the square, A=X² Α²−24A+48=0 A=½(24±√24²−4*48) A=21.79

Amitai Amir - 3 years, 12 months ago

Let X be the side of the square. Triangle with area of 3... X6/X0.5=3 So short side is 6/X Equaly for triangle 4, short side is 8/X For triangle 5 0.5(X-6/X)(X-8/X)=5 X⁴-24X²+48=0 Let A be the area of the square, A=X² Α²−24A+48=0 A=½(24±√24²−4*48) A=21.79 –

Amitai Amir - 3 years, 12 months ago

David Fairer
Dec 3, 2017

Let the side of the square be 'l'. Then the other side of the triangle with area 4 must be (8 / l) , (since l x (8 / l) / 2 = 4 which is given). Similarly the other side of the triangle with area 3 must be (6 / l), (since l x (6 / l) / 2 = 3 which is given. And the area of the 3rd triangle with a given area is half of the sides multiplied together, and this area is given as 5. So (l - 8 / l) x (l - 6 / l) / 2 = 5. Multiply both sides of this equation by 2 x l^2 (one l multiplying one bracket, and the other l multiplying the other bracket. So (l^2 - 8) x (l^2 - 6) = 10 x l^2. Now note that the area of the square which I'll call A is equal to l^2. So substituting is gives (A - 8) x (A - 6) = 10 x A. Multiplying and simplifying this equation gives A^2 - 24 x A + 48 = 0. From this A = [24 (+/-) SQUROOT (24^2 - 4 x 1 x 48)] / (2 x 1). So A = 12 (+/-)SQUROOT (96). So A = 12 (+/-) 4 x SQUROOT 6. So A = 4 x [3 (+/-) SQUROOT 6]. Now SQUROOT 6 is clearly more than 2. So the negative value of this root gives A < 4 x [3 - 2]. So for the negative value of the squroot one gets that A<4. This is clearly absurd, because the areas of the 3 triangles that were given add up to 12. (ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS ROOT EXISTS FOR THIS EQUATION - I EXPECTED IT TO BE NEGATIVE. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME?). But then the answer is the positive squroot, so the answer is A = 12 + 4 x SQUROOT 6. Which can be expressed as A = 4 x (3 + SQUROOT 6). AND WE'D BETTER NOT FORGET THE ONE TIMES THE SQUROOT!! So A = 4 x (3 + 1 x SQUROOT 6). And finally 4 + 3 + 1 + 6 = 14 which is the answer of this question. Regards, David

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