400 and 1s

400 in base 10 is 1111 in which base?


The answer is 7.

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4 solutions

Tijmen Veltman
Dec 5, 2016

Call our mystery base b b . We need to solve 1 b 3 + 1 b 2 + 1 b 1 + 1 b 0 = 400 1b^3 + 1b^2 + 1b^1 + 1b^0 = 400 , i.e. b 3 + b 2 + b = 399 b^3 + b^2 + b = 399 , therefore b b divides 399. Since 399 = 3 × 7 × 19 399 = 3 \times 7 \times 19 , we are left with only a few possible values of b b :

b = 1 b 3 + b 2 + b + 1 = 4 b=1 \Rightarrow b^3 + b^2 + b + 1 = 4 \Rightarrow no solution

b = 3 b 3 + b 2 + b + 1 = 40 b=3 \Rightarrow b^3 + b^2 + b + 1 = 40 \Rightarrow no solution

b = 7 b 3 + b 2 + b + 1 = 400 b = 7 b=7 \Rightarrow b^3 + b^2 + b + 1 = 400 \Rightarrow\ b = \boxed{7} .

Higher values of b b are not possible since they will certainly yield b 3 + b 2 + b + 1 > 400 b^3 + b^2 + b + 1 > 400 .

That's a cute atypical solution to an otherwise standard problem :)

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Is it that atypical? I used the same method.

Peter van der Linden - 4 years, 6 months ago

I like how your solution uses divisibility instead of solving for the roots of a third-degree polynomial.

Christopher Boo - 4 years, 6 months ago
Jason Dyer Staff
Dec 1, 2016

Call our mystery base x . x . 1000 < 1111 , 1000 < 1111, and 1000 1000 in base x x is 1 x 3 + 0 x 2 + 0 x + 0 = x 3 . 1x^3 + 0x^2 + 0x + 0 = x^3 .

In base 10, then, x 3 < 400. x^3 < 400 . This means x < 400 3 . x < \sqrt[3]{400} . The cube root of 400 is approximately 7.4, so x x must be 7 or smaller.

Note also that 1333 > 1111 , 1333 > 1111 , and 1331 1331 in base x x is 1 x 3 + 3 x 2 + 3 x + 1 = ( x + 1 ) 3 . 1x^3 + 3x^2 + 3x + 1 = (x+1)^3 . In base 10, ( x + 1 ) 3 > 400 , (x+1)^3 > 400, so x + 1 x + 1 must be greater than approximately 7.4, implying x x is greater than approximately 6.4.

The only choice for x , x , then, is 7. Checking 7 itself and converting to base 10, ( 1 ) 7 3 + ( 1 ) 7 2 + ( 1 ) 7 + ( 1 ) 1 = 400. (1)7^3 + (1)7^2 + (1)7 + (1)1 = 400 .

Like this solution? Check out more types like this of this at the wiki Diophantine Equations - Solve by Bounding Values .

Cláudio Dias
Dec 9, 2016

I did somewhat like Tijemen:

Calling our mystery base b, we're requested to solve 1 b 3 + 1 b 2 + 1 b 1 + 1 b 0 = 400 1{b}^{3}+1{b}^{2}+1{b}^{1}+1{b}^{0}=400 , i.e. b 3 + b 2 + b 1 = b ( b 2 + b 1 + 1 ) = 399 {b}^{3}+{b}^{2}+{b}^{1}= b({b}^{2}+{b}^{1}+1)=399 , and therefore, b divides 399, which is a composite number: 399 = 3 7 19 399={3} * {7} * {19} .

Since b is a natural number greater than 1, 3 b 3 > b 3 + b 2 + b 1 = 399 > 3 b 2 3{b}^{3}>{b}^{3}+{b}^{2}+{b}^{1}=399>3{b}^{2} , therefore, 5 < b < 11 5<b<11 . So, we are left with only one possibility: b = 7 b=7 .

Actually, that's a combination of both solutions! Using the divisibility to restrict solutions, and then bounding them between a certain range. Nicely done!

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago
Terry Smith
Dec 9, 2016

I solved x 3 + x 2 + x 399 = 0 x^3+x^2+x-399=0 in a CAS (computer algebra system) I am writing in Ruby with Newton's Method.

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