A B C D is a square with A B = 1 3 . Points E and F are exterior to A B C D such that B E = D F = 5 and A E = C F = 1 2 .
If the length of E F can be represented as a b , where a and b are positive integers and b is not divisible by the square of any prime, then find a b .
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It isn't immediately obvious that adding G and H like that would have FCH and FDG be straight lines.
May be better to explicitly state 5²+12²=13², therefore CFD is a right angle; and then the angles at C are equal to the angles in a triangle = 180, therefore FCH is a straight line.
Or create G and H by extending the lines we're given; then prove using the angles that CDF and BCH are identical so you can fill in the sides.
This is the same diagram as used in the Chinese proof of the Pythagorean theorem.
Much more elegant than my brute force solution....
Nice move to extend the figure to get the right-triangles. That simplifies it easily
I still can not see how you get answer 34. According to me answer is 17*sqare root 2 which is 24 to nearest integer.
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Now I see my mistake.
Let the intersection of F D and E A be G and let the intersection of E B and F C be H . By the converse of the Pythagorean theorem, ∠ A E B is a right angle. △ C F D ≅ △ A E B by S S S and △ D G A ≅ △ A E B ≅ △ B H C by A S A . Therefore, E G F H is a square with diagonal E F . The side length of this square is 1 2 + 5 = 1 7 , so the length of its diagonal is 1 7 2 . 1 7 ∗ 2 = 3 4
This was the solution which I was looking for. Good job.
And I have this whole length of trigometry that ends with 1 7 2
Not clear,Could you draw afigure showing G & H to complete square EGFH ,Thanks K.K.GARG,India
I u s e d a c o o r d i n a t e s y s t e m c e n t e r e d a t C a n d c a l c u l a t e d t h e d i s t a n c e s u s i n g t h e P y t h a g o r e a n t h e o r e m t o f i n d t h a t : F ( − 1 3 6 0 ; 1 3 1 4 4 ) a n d E ( 1 3 2 2 9 ; 1 3 2 5 ) . U s i n g t h e d i s t a n c e f o r m u l a w e c a n c a l c u l a t e E F . E F = 5 7 8 = 1 7 2 ∴ a = 1 7 & b = 2 a b = 3 4
How did you calculate the coordinates of F and E ? PLEASE ELABORATE.
I did the same.
First we notice that the angle
∠
F
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B
E
over the sides
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(leaving the legs of this new triangles form continuous lines with the legs of the triangles
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It forms a square
A
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B
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F
with sides
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=
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F
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=
1
7
2
→
a
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7
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b
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⇒
a
b
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4
Extend line D F to the lower left by 5 u n i t s . Call the end of the extension as point P
Making △ D P B with sides P B parallel and equal to F E
D P = 1 0
D B = 1 3 2
P B = F E
∠ B D P = 4 5 + cos − 1 ( 1 3 5 )
take cosine law
( F E ) 2 = ( P B ) 2 = 1 0 2 + ( 1 3 2 ) 2 − 2 ( 1 0 ) ( 1 3 2 ) cos [ 4 5 + cos − 1 ( 1 3 5 ) ]
F E = 1 7 2
a b = 1 7 × 2 = 3 4
EF² = (13 + 120/13)² + (2 (25/13) - 13)²=578 or EF = 17√2. Hence, ab = 17 (2 )= 34
Just introduce the co-ordinate system with origin anywhere........... Find the co-ordinates of E and F by using basic trigonometry and use distance formula to find the length EF
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Exactly! This is what I did. Actually only the distance formula without any trigonometry will do the job. You can take the lower left vertex of the square as the origin.
Please explain how did you get 120/13 and 25/13 figures to get EF square values? Thanks K.K.GARG,India
If lines parallel to BC & DC re drawn resply. thru E and F intersecting in G then from basic trigo.in rt. triangle EFG, EG = 130+120/13 while FG =13 - 2(25/13) So EF² = (13 + 120/13)² + (13 -2(25/13))²
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I added Point G and H which is the same as E and F .
Point EF - Hypotenuse
FH=HE=17
45-45-90 triangle
EF= 7 2
17(2) = 3 4
Sorry for the bad edited image.