Logarithm with circle

Algebra Level 2

Find the maximum value of log 5 ( 3 x + 4 y ) \log_{5}(3x+4y) if x 2 + y 2 = 25 x^{2}+y^{2} = 25 .

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3 solutions

Tijmen Veltman
Apr 29, 2015

By Cauchy-Schwarz, we have ( 3 x + 4 y ) 2 ( 3 2 + 4 2 ) ( x 2 + y 2 ) = 2 5 2 (3x+4y)^2\leq (3^2+4^2)(x^2+y^2)=25^2 , hence 3 x + 4 y 25 3x+4y\leq 25 and so log 5 ( 3 x + 4 y ) log 5 ( 25 ) = 2 . \log_5(3x+4y)\leq\log_5(25)=\boxed{2}.

Moderator note:

Great! For clarity you should explain why you could use Cauchy Scwartz when x , y x,y are not necessarily positive numbers. One could also use the properties of discriminant to solve this but that's slightly more working.

Thanks. Now I got it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 1 month ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 27, 2015

Since x 2 + y 2 = 25 x^2+y^2=25 , we can substitute x = 5 cos θ x=5\cos{\theta} and y = 5 sin θ y = 5\sin{\theta} . Since log 5 ( 3 x + 4 y ) 0 \log_5{(3x+4y)} \ge 0 , it has maximum value when 3 x + 4 y 3x+4y is maximum or f ( θ ) = 15 cos θ + 20 sin θ f(\theta) = 15 \cos{\theta}+20\sin{\theta} is maximum.

We note that:

f ( θ ) = 15 cos θ + 20 sin θ = 25 ( 3 5 cos θ + 4 5 sin θ ) = 25 ( sin ϕ cos θ + cos ϕ sin θ ) \begin{aligned} f(\theta) & = 15 \cos{\theta}+20\sin{\theta} = 25 \left( \frac{3}{5}\cos{\theta}+\frac{4}{5} \sin{\theta} \right) \\ & = 25 \left( \sin{\phi}\cos{\theta}+\cos{\phi }\sin{\theta} \right) \end{aligned}

= 25 sin ( θ + ϕ ) \quad \quad \space = 25 \sin{(\theta + \phi)} , where ϕ = tan 1 3 4 \phi = \tan^{-1} {\frac{3}{4}} .

f ( θ ) m a x = 25 \Rightarrow f(\theta)_{max} = 25 , when sin ( θ + ϕ ) = 1 \sin{(\theta + \phi)} = 1 , and maximum log 5 ( 3 x + 4 y ) = log 5 25 = 2 \log_5{(3x+4y)} = \log_5 {25} = \boxed{2}

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There's a slight shorter working for your method. Do you know the R-method? And since this is an algebraic problem, can you solve this without resorting to geometry?

What's the r-methods?

Shivam Jadhav - 6 years, 1 month ago

Got it! I will write the solution shortly.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 1 month ago

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When Will you post the r-method

Shivam Jadhav - 6 years, 1 month ago
Shivam Jadhav
Apr 26, 2015

Let x = 5cos@ and y=5sin@ . Maximum value of 3x+4y = maximum value of 15cos@+20sin@. = 1 5 2 + 2 0 2 \sqrt{15^{2}+20^{2}} =25. Hence l o g 5 25 = 2 log_{5}25 =2

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