Nearly a Trigonometric Limit

Calculus Level 2

What is the value of

lim x 0 tan x x sin x x ? \lim _{ x \rightarrow 0 } \frac{ \tan x - x } { \sin x - x }?


The answer is -2.

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9 solutions

Isaac Jacobs
Nov 20, 2014

Applying L'Hopital's rule, we can differentiate once and then cancel a factor of cos(x)-1 out of the numerator and denominator. Substituting 0 into the remaining expression, we have -(1+1)/1= -2.

ah, the cancellation part is nice :)

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 6 months ago

Excellent. Did the same. BTW, you could add a bit more detail as to how you applied the L'Hopital's rule so that solution is more complete.

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 6 months ago
Edmund Heng
Dec 20, 2014

Realising both numerator and denominator has limit approaching 0, L'Hopital rule is something you would wish to try. Applying it you should get sec 2 x 1 cos x 1 \frac {\sec^2 x - 1} {\cos x - 1} This might seem complicated to some, but think about secant and cosine: sec x = 1 cos x \sec x = \frac {1} {\cos x} Substituting this, you should get 1 cos 2 x ( cos 2 x ) ( cos x 1 ) \frac {1-\cos^2 x} {(\cos^2 x)(\cos x -1)} Factorising the numerator, we can simplify the whole expression into ( 1 + cos x ) ( 1 cos x ) ( cos 2 x ) ( cos x 1 ) = 1 + cos x cos 2 x \frac {(1+ \cos x)(1-\cos x)} {(\cos^2 x)(\cos x -1)} = - \frac {1+\cos x}{\cos^2 x} which taking the limit gives you -2.

Owen Watson
Nov 20, 2014

To solve, you must use L'Hopital's rule twice, leaving you with: lim(x-->0) of (2sec^2(x)(tan(x)/(-sin(x)). This equation simplifies down to lim(x-->0) of (2/(-cos^3(x)). Then substitute x=0 into this, and you get 2/(-1)^3, which equals -2

Awesome. L'Hopital is a life saver.

Isaac Jacobs - 6 years, 6 months ago

I would just like to point out that the -ve sign shouldn't be inside the brackets.

Pankaj J - 6 years, 6 months ago

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which sign should not be in the brackets?

Owen Watson - 6 years, 6 months ago

Not 'must' twice BTW. See other solutions.

Roneel V. - 2 years, 5 months ago
Kenny Lau
Nov 29, 2014

I don't know why this is level 2.

lim x 0 tan x x sin x x = lim x 0 sec 2 x 1 cos x 1 = lim x 0 2 sec 2 x tan x sin x = lim x 0 4 sec 2 x tan 2 x + 2 sec 4 x cos x = 2 \begin{array}{rcl} \lim_{x\to0}\frac{\tan x-x}{\sin x-x}&=&\lim_{x\to0}\frac{\sec^2x-1}{\cos x-1}\\ &=&\lim_{x\to0}\frac{2\sec^2x\tan x}{-\sin x}\\ &=&\lim_{x\to0}\frac{4\sec^2x\tan^2x+2\sec^4x}{-\cos x} &=&-2 \end{array}

w.k.t tanx=x+x^3/3+2x^5/15+17x^7/315+...... so tanx-x= x^3/3+2x^5/15+17x^7/315+...... =x^3 (1/3+2x^2/15+17x^4/315+......) ====> (1) similarly sinx= x-x^3/3+x^5/5-x^7/7+.... so sinx-x= -x^3/3!+x^5/5!-x^7/7!+.... = x^3 (-1/3!+1/5!-1/7!+....) =====>(2) so (1)/(2) we get (1/3+2x^2/15+17x^4/315+......) / (-1/3!+1/5!-1/7!+....) wen we apply limit to it all terms wid x becomes zero... and we will remain with = (1/3) / (1/3!) so answer is '2'

Can we have a non lhopital neither taylor series solution?

antonius gotama - 1 year, 9 months ago
Atreya Das
Nov 20, 2014

We have 2 use L-Hospital's rule. A simple point 2 keep in mind is to: Keep on differenciating both the numerator and denominator until the time your denominater part is a non-zero after you apply the limits. In this problem, we have 2 apply L-Hospital's rule 3 times 2 get the desired result.

Happy solving:)

We can use it just one time and we divide by x^2.

Omar El Mokhtar - 6 years, 6 months ago
Joe Potillor
Feb 7, 2017

Shreyas Sagdeo
Nov 20, 2014

It's basically a problem comes under category of 0/0 form.. So by L'Hospital rule we have to differentiate numerator and denominator separately till we get a proper value after substitution "0" in X...

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