A Cool Functional Equation

Algebra Level 5

Let f ( x ) f(x) be a polynomial with real coefficients such that f ( 0 ) = 1 , f(0) = 1, f ( 2 ) + f ( 3 ) = 125 , f(2)+f(3)=125, and for all x x , f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) . f(x)f(2x^{2})=f(2x^{3}+x). Find f ( 5 ) . f(5).


The answer is 676.

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Let f ( x ) = a n x n + . . . + a 2 x 2 + a 1 x + a 0 f(x) = a_nx^n + ... + a_2x^2 + a_1x + a_0 . Since f ( 0 ) = 1 f(0) = 1 , a 0 = 1 \Rightarrow \color{#3D99F6}{a_0 = 1} , f ( x ) = a n x n + . . . + a 2 x 2 + a 1 x + 1 \Rightarrow f(x) = a_nx^n + ... + a_2x^2 + a_1x + \color{#3D99F6}{1} .

f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) ( a n x n + . . . + 1 ) ( a n ( 2 n x 2 n ) + . . . + 1 ) = a n ( 2 x 3 + x ) n + . . . + 1 2 a n 2 x 3 n + . . . + 1 = 2 a n x 3 n + . . . + 1 \begin{aligned} f(x) f(2x^2) & = f(2x^3+x) \\ (a_nx^n + ... + 1) (a_n(2^nx^{2n}) + ... + 1) & = a_n(2x^3+x)^n + ... + 1 \\ 2 \color{#3D99F6} {a_n^2} x^{3n} + ... + 1 & = 2\color{#3D99F6} {a_n} x^{3n} + ... + 1 \end{aligned}

This implies that a n 2 = a n a_n^2 = a_n , a n = 1 \Rightarrow a_n = 1 , f ( x ) = x n + . . . + a 2 x 2 + a 1 x + 1 \Rightarrow f(x) = x^n + ... + a_2x^2 + a_1x + 1 .

From f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) f(x) f(2x^2) = f(2x^3+x) ,

f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) f ( x ) f ( 2 ( x ) 2 ) = f ( 2 [ x ] 3 + [ x ] ) f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( [ 2 x 3 + x ] ) f ( x ) f ( 2 x 3 + x ) f ( x ) = f ( [ 2 x 3 + x ] ) f ( x ) \begin{aligned} \Rightarrow f(2x^2) & = \frac {f(2x^3+x)} {f(x)} \\ f(2(-x)^2) & = \frac {f(2[-x]^3+[-x])} {f(-x)} \\ f(2x^2) & = \frac {f(-[2x^3+x])} {f(-x)} \\ \Rightarrow \frac {f(2x^3+x)} {f(x)} & = \frac {f(-[2x^3+x])} {f(-x)} \end{aligned}

This implies that f ( x ) f(x) is even and a k = 0 a_k = 0 for k k is odd; f ( x ) = a n x n + . . . + a 4 x 4 + a 2 x 2 + 1 \Rightarrow f(x) = a_nx^n + ... + a_4x^4 + a_2x^2 + 1 , where n n is even.

For n = 2 n=2 , then f ( x ) = x 2 + 1 f(x) = x^2 +1 and:

f ( 2 ) + f ( 3 ) = ( 2 2 + 1 ) + ( 3 2 + 1 ) = 15 125 n 2 \begin{aligned} \Rightarrow f(2) + f(3) & = (2^2+1) + (3^2+1) = 15 \ne 125 \quad \Rightarrow n \ne 2 \end{aligned}

For n = 4 n=4 , then f ( x ) = x 4 + a 2 x 2 + 1 f(x) = x^4 + a_2x^2+1 and:

f ( 2 ) + f ( 3 ) = ( 2 4 + 2 2 a 2 + 1 ) + ( 3 4 + 3 2 a 2 + 1 ) = 99 + 13 a 2 = 125 a 2 = 125 99 13 = 2 \begin{aligned} \Rightarrow f(2) + f(3) & = (2^4 + 2^2a_2+1) + (3^4+3^2a_2+1) = 99 + 13a_2 = 125 \\ \Rightarrow a_2 & = \frac{125-99} {13} = 2 \end{aligned}

f ( x ) = x 4 + 2 x 2 + 1 = ( x 2 + 1 ) 2 \Rightarrow f(x) = x^4 + 2x^2 + 1 = (x^2+1)^2 .

Now let us check if f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) f(x) f(2x^2) = f(2x^3+x) is satisfied.

L H S = f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = ( x 2 + 1 ) 2 ( 4 x 4 + 1 ) 2 = ( 4 x 6 + 4 x 4 + x 2 + 1 ) 2 = ( [ 2 x 3 + x ] 2 + 1 ) 2 = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) = R H S \begin{aligned} \Rightarrow LHS & = f(x) f(2x^2) \\ & = (x^2+1)^ 2 (4x^4+1)^2 \\ & = (4x^6 + 4x^4 + x^2 + 1)^2 \\ & = ([2x^3+x]^2+1)^2 \\ & = f(2x^3+x) = RHS \end{aligned}

Therefore, f ( 5 ) = ( 5 2 + 1 ) 2 = 2 6 2 = 676 f(5) = (5^2+1)^2 = 26^2 = \boxed{676}

Alan Yan
Aug 30, 2015

Let r r be a real root of f ( x ) f(x) . This means that f ( r ) = 0 f(r) = 0 and implies, because of the last condition, that f ( 2 r 3 + r ) = 0 f(2r^3+r) = 0 which means 2 r 3 + r 2r^3+r is also a real root. However you can do this infinitely and since the polynomial has finite degree, there must be no real roots.

Now after experimenting, it seems that the usual values of 0 , 1 , . . . 0, 1, ... don't seem to work, and we sigh because we are tired, and bored.

However, then we think of trying nonreal numbers, more specifically, ± i \pm i !

Plugging in ± i \pm i gets us:

f ( i ) f ( 2 ) = f ( i ) f(i) f(-2) = f(-i)

f ( i ) f ( 2 ) = f ( i ) f(-i)f(-2) = f(i)

Substituting gives us that f ( i ) = f ( i ) = 0 f(i) = f(-i) = 0 since f ( x ) f(x) has no real roots.

We can rewrite f f as f ( x ) = ( x 2 + 1 ) Q ( x ) f(x) = (x^2+1)Q(x)

Now we substitute this into f ( x ) f ( 2 x 2 ) = f ( 2 x 3 + x ) f(x) f(2x^2) = f(2x^3+x) and we get.... the exact same identity!

This implies we can keep on squeezing factors of i i and i -i out until we get f ( x ) = ( x 2 + 1 ) n f(x) = (x^2+1)^n for some integer n n .

We see that the f ( 0 ) = 1 f(0) = 1 condition is fulfilled.

We now use the f ( 2 ) + f ( 3 ) = 125 f(2) + f(3) = 125 condition to get that 5 n + 1 0 n = 125 5^n + 10^n = 125

By looking at the equation, it is easy to see the solution: n = 2 n = 2 .

Finally we have our function f f :

f ( x ) = ( x 2 + 1 ) 2 f ( 5 ) = 2 6 2 = 676 f(x) = (x^2 + 1)^2 \implies f(5) = 26^2 = \boxed{676}

Moderator note:

The first line need not be true. What you need to demonstrate it that given any r r , iteratively calculating 2 r 3 + r 2r^3 + r will not result in any eventually periodic sequence which could lead to finitely many solutions. In particular, this is why we needed f ( 0 ) 0 f(0) \neq 0 , since otherwise 0 could have been a real root.

For example, the conditions of g ( x ) = 1 , g ( x ) g ( x ) = g ( x 2 ) g(x) = 1, g(x) g( -x) = g(x^2) can be satisfied by g ( x ) = x 2 + 1 g(x) = - x^2 + 1 .In this case, iteratively calculating r 2 r^2 with a starting value of r = 1 r = -1 works for us.

You are doing great at 14 years @Alan Yan . Keep it up!

Nelson Mandela - 5 years, 9 months ago

Oh man how did you thought about it?

Department 8 - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Practice, practice, practice, and develop intuition to solve these problems! The common values to substitute in functional equations are the simple ones. So just substitute stuff in even if it may seem crazy!

Alan Yan - 5 years, 9 months ago

The first line need not be true. What you need to demonstrate it that given any r r , iteratively calculating 2 r 3 + r 2r^3 + r will not result in any eventually periodic sequence which could lead to finitely many solutions. In particular, this is why we needed f ( 0 ) 0 f(0) \neq 0 , since otherwise 0 could have been a real root.

For example, the conditions of g ( x ) = 1 , g ( x ) g ( x ) = g ( x 2 ) g(x) = 1, g(x) g( -x) = g(x^2) can be satisfied by g ( x ) = x 2 + 1 g(x) = - x^2 + 1 .In this case, iteratively calculating r 2 r^2 with a starting value of r 1 = 1 r_1 = -1 only yield r 2 = 1 r_2 = 1 as an additional root.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Noted. And please fix the LaTeX.

Alan Yan - 5 years, 9 months ago

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