A Double Sound of Hammering.

A spike is hammered into a train rail. You are standing at the other end of the rail. You hear the sound of the hammer strike both through the air and through the rail itself. These sounds arrive at your point six seconds apart. You know that sound travels through air at 1,100 feet per second and through steel at 16,500 feet per second. How far away is that spike? Round your answer to one decimal place.

8014.9 8354.7 7071.4 8154.9

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Arya Samanta
Apr 23, 2014

Let's go easy. This is simple speed problem. Lets take the distance as x , and the time taken as t i.e. the time taken through the rail. Now, as per the question goes the time taken through the air is " t + 6 t+6 " .

So acc. to the question : x 16500 = t \frac {x}{16500}=t ......................... (1)

Also : x 1100 = t + 6 \frac {x}{1100}=t+6 .................................................................................... (2)

Solvig these two equation we get t = 0.428571 t=0.428571 ........... then we get x = 7071.4 x=7071.4 .

So got it. Quite easy atleast gave me 100 points. :)

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Arya.

My answer is... 49500/7 ft.

Let t be the time for steel and t+6 be the time on air... (More time is more slow in motion.)

so, d=rt d=(1100)(t+6)=distance on air

d=rt d=16500t= distance on steel

So, equate them...

(1100)(t+6)=16500t 1100t + 6600 = 16500t 15400t=6600 t=3/7

so, the time on steel is 3/7 sec. While the time on air is t+6=3/7+6=45/7 secs.... So, multiply...

d=rt d=(3/7)(16500) d=49500/7 ft.

Another is... d=rt d=(45/7)(1100) d=49500/7 ft.

So, the answer is 49500/7 ft...

^.^

Abhishek Bisht - 7 years, 1 month ago

S p e e d : V 1 > V 2 T i m e T 1 < T 2 D i s p l a c e m e n t : X = V 1 T 1 = V 2 T 2 T 2 T 1 = 6 V 1 T 1 = 6 V 2 + V 2 T 1 T 1 ( V 1 V 2 ) = 6 V 2 T 1 = 6 V 2 V 1 V 2 = 0.428571429 X = V 1 T 1 = 7071.428571429 Speed:\quad { V }_{ 1 }{ >V }_{ 2 }\\ Time\quad T_{ 1 }<{ T }_{ 2 }\\ Displacement:\quad X={ V }_{ 1 }T_{ 1 }{ =V }_{ 2 }T_{ 2 }\\ \\ T_{ 2 }-T_{ 1 }=6\\ { V }_{ 1 }T_{ 1 }=6{ V }_{ 2 }+{ V }_{ 2\\ }T_{ 1 }\\ T_{ 1 }({ V }_{ 1 }{ -V }_{ 2 })=6{ V }_{ 2 }\\ T_{ 1 }=\frac { 6{ V }_{ 2 } }{ { V }_{ 1 }{ -V }_{ 2 } } =0.428571429\\ \\ X={ V }_{ 1 }{ T }_{ 1 }=7071.428571429

Dhan Raj
Apr 26, 2014

lets required distance is "x" time taken by sound through steel=x/16500 time taken by sound through air=x/1100 since diff bw time is 6 sec x/1100-x/16500=6 x=7071.428571

Let's suppose that the distance of me and the spike is 1100\times t, and t is the time that the sound travels through the air. So, if the sound arrives 6 seconds before through the rail, we have 1100t = 16500(t-6) 16500\times 6 = t(16500-1100) t = 165 \times 6/154 t = 90/14 = 45/7

If we are far away from the spike about 1100t, we have: D = 1100\times 45/7 = 49500/7 = 7071,4 approximately

Mirtaki Tajwar
May 15, 2014

easy, let the time taken by the sound to travel by rail be t sec. so the time by air is (t+6) sec now let the path travelled be x. we know, s=vt so, 16500t=1100(t+6) from here, t=0.43 now put it in the equation s=vt and u get the answer.

thanks, this is my first solvedproblem in brilliant... cheers!!!!!!!!

Rahma Anggraeni
Apr 30, 2014

16,500 (t-6) = 1,100t

16,500t - 99,000 = 1,100t

15,400t = 99,000

t = 99 , 000 15 , 400 \frac{99,000}{15,400} = 45 7 \frac{45}{7}

s = v × t v \times t = 1 , 100 × 45 7 1,100 \times \frac{45}{7} = 7071.4 approximately

Edsel Fuentes
Apr 28, 2014

that was so ec , just use the substitution method ...1100 ft/s=d/x+6 , x is ur time and the other one would be 16500 ft/s=d/x using sub method ur d will be 16500x, substituting it to the other equation it will cr8 an eq. of 1100ft/s=16500x/x+6 then we would have 1100x-16500x=-6600 using the transposition method after dividing it our x will be 0.42857 and "NOW" u can freely choose to what eq. u want to work with and what u have to do is to sub. that into ur x and u will have the answer of "7071.4!!"

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