A Faulty Balance!

A faulty beam balance has pans of different masses, and its beam remains horizontal when the pans are empty. On such a beam balance, a mass of m m is put on one pan and it is balanced by a weight of 9 grams. When the same mass is put on the other pan, it can be balanced by a weight of 16 grams.

Find the mass m m in grams.


The answer is 12.

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5 solutions

Steven Chase
Jan 24, 2017

Relevant wiki: Torque - Equilibrium

The picture gives us a pretty good hint about how to proceed. The balance will be level when there are equal torques on both sides. Let's call the mass of the left plate m L m_L and the mass of the right plate m R m_R . Even though these two masses aren't equal, we are told that the torques balance when the plates are empty, so we can write:

α m L = β m R \alpha m_L = \beta m_R

The other balance cases translate into the following:

α ( m L + m ) = β ( m R + 9 ) α ( m L + 16 ) = β ( m R + m ) . \begin{aligned} \alpha (m_L + m) &= \beta (m_R + 9) \\ \alpha (m_L + 16) &= \beta (m_R + m). \\ \end{aligned}

Subtracting the first equation from the other two gives:

α m = 9 β 16 α = β m . \begin{aligned} \alpha m &= 9 \beta \\ 16 \alpha &= \beta m. \\ \end{aligned}

Then dividing these two equations gives:

m 16 = 9 m m 2 = 144 m = 12 . \begin{aligned} \frac{m}{16} &= \frac{9}{m} \\ m^2 &= 144 \\ m &= \boxed{12}. \\ \end{aligned}

Moderator note:

Great approach to clearly eliminate the contribution of the error. Presumably the error is introduced by shifting the positions of the weighing trays on their respective arms. Here we were able to extract some information about the scale from the set of measurements. Another interesting question is whether we can find where to move the anchor points of the trays, so as to recalibrate the scale?

That is a very nice solution, though we can actually skip the involvement of masses of the pan and jump directly to write the two equations that you got after subtracting from the first two equations.

We can do so by saying that initially the system is in equilibrium. So, the moments of the pans balance each other. Now for the bar to remain horizontal the moments of the new masses placed in the pans should also balance each other.

The ultimate result is also worth noting as the result is the geometric mean of the two masses used to balance the unknown mass.

Rohit Gupta - 4 years, 4 months ago

Just a minor point on notation: it's always clearer if notation is consistent, so instead of α and β, I'd use αL and αR so that the equations become:

αL.mL = αR.mR

(Apologies for my lack of LaTeX.)

David Brand - 3 years, 10 months ago
Lance Fernando
Feb 28, 2017

Using the ratio method, the scale can be rewritten as m:9 = 16:m. Multiplying the extremes and means, we get m(m) = 144. Get the square root of both sides, and we have m = 12 g.

Wow! How did you do it directly? What is the ratio method? Can you elaborate more on this method?

Rohit Gupta - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Ratio method is the literal usage of ratios and proportions in order to solve scale-based problems. In this case, we let one scale set be represented by m:9, as corresponded to the illustration; we also let the other scale set be represented by 16:m, as corresponded to the illustration. In order to equalize such, we have to equate them to each other -- in this case, t becomes m:9 = 16:m. Multiply the means and extremes and we get m(m) = 144. To find m, we have to find the square root of both sides -- so m = 12. Even if the scale is biased on one side, we can find m by proper representation.

Lance Fernando - 4 years, 3 months ago

Such an easy method :)

Bibhor Singh - 3 years, 2 months ago

We know, Load×Load arm = Effort×Effort Arm
Let load arm = x, effort arm = y..
m×x = 9×y.....(1)
16×x = m×y....(2)
Dividing both the equations, we get,
m×m = 16×9
=> m = 4×3= 12




Yes, because of the equilibrium, torques are balanced.
and torque = load × \times load arm.

Rohit Gupta - 4 years, 4 months ago
Jeriel Villa
Feb 27, 2017

The summation of moment at the joint is equal to zero

in the first figure, let x be the distance of the mass to the joint and L be the distance from each other of the two masses therefore:

mx = 9(L-x) eq. 1

m(L-x) = 16x eq. 2

equate L-x

mx = 9 ( 16 x ) m \frac{9(16x)}{m}

m = 12 grams

Merin Jose
Dec 29, 2020

there is a simple formula to it... actual wt = root of product of given wt =root of 9 x 16 =root of 144 = 12

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