A Golden Probability

You have in front of you two identical chests ( on the exterior ). You are told that one chest contains 100 100 silver coins and the other contains 50 50 silver and 50 50 gold coins. You are then blindfolded and asked to pick a chest at random and draw a coin: Its a silver coin - its yours to keep, so you place it in your pocket. To your surprise you are then given a second chance! If you draw a gold coin you keep the entire contents of the chest; if not, you get the coins you drew. What is the ( what I'm naming ) relative likelihood " R \text{R} " you draw a gold coin if you switch chests vs. stay for the next draw?

Calculate:

R = P ( Gold Switch ) P ( Gold Stay ) \text{R} = \frac{ P ( \text{Gold}| \text{Switch} ) }{P ( \text{Gold}| \text{Stay} ) }

R = a b \text{R} = \frac{a}{b} , where a a and b b are positive coprime integers.

Enter a + b a + b


The answer is 149.

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1 solution

Eric Roberts
Apr 18, 2021

Calculate P ( Gold Stay ) P ( \text{Gold}|\text{Stay} )

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On the first draw the probability that you chose the the chest containing 50 / 50 50/50 Gold & Silver mix is:

P ( G&S Silver ) = P ( G&S mix ) P ( Silver ) P ( G&S mix ) P ( Silver ) + P ( All Silver ) P ( Silver ) = 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 + 1 2 1 = 1 3 \displaystyle \begin{aligned} P( \text{G\&S}|\text{Silver} ) &= \frac{ P( \text{G\&S mix} ) \cdot P( \text{Silver} ) }{ P( \text{G\&S mix} ) \cdot P( \text{Silver} ) + P( \text{ All Silver } ) \cdot P ( \text{Silver} ) } \\ \quad \\ \displaystyle &= \frac{ \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{1}{2} }{ \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{2} \cdot 1 } \\ \quad \\ \displaystyle &=\frac{1}{3} \end{aligned}

Intuitively you can arrive at this by only considering the coins ( not the chest ) and noting that mixed chest has 50 100 + 50 = 1 3 \frac{50}{100+50} = \frac{1}{3} of all Silver coins.

Thus;

P ( Gold Stay ) = P ( G&S Silver ) P ( Gold in Mix ) = ( 1 3 ) ( 50 99 ) P ( \text{Gold}|\text{Stay} ) = P( \text{G\&S}|\text{Silver} ) \cdot P( \text{Gold in Mix} ) = \left( \frac{1}{3} \right)\cdot \left( \frac{50}{99} \right)


Calculate P ( Gold Switch ) P ( \text{Gold}|\text{Switch} )

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Using the compliment the probability you initially drew a coin from the chest containing 100 100 Silver coins is:

P ( All Silver Silver ) = 2 3 P( \text{All Silver}|\text{Silver} ) = \frac{2}{3}

So the probability of drawing a gold after the switch ( noting that P ( Gold in Mix ) = 50 100 P( \text{Gold in Mix} ) = \frac{50}{100} since the first draw was from the other chest ) :

P ( Gold Switch ) = P ( All Silver Silver ) P ( Gold in Mix ) = ( 2 3 ) ( 50 100 ) P ( \text{Gold}|\text{Switch} ) = P( \text{All Silver}|\text{Silver} )\cdot P( \text{Gold in Mix} ) = \left( \frac{2}{3} \right) \cdot \left( \frac{50}{100} \right)

Finally;

R = P ( Gold Switch ) P ( Gold Stay ) = 99 50 \text{ R } = \frac{ P ( \text{Gold}|\text{Switch} ) }{ P ( \text{Gold}|\text{Stay} ) } = \frac{99}{50}

and

a + b = 99 + 50 = 149 a + b = 99 + 50 = 149

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P.S. If I have this problem wrong please speak up or report.

The only wrong thing is you should have asked for the probability, not the odds. Probability is a/b, odds is n:k (n-to-k) =n/(n+k). For example, 1:1 odds=1/(1+1)=1/2

Andrei Zonga - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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The thing is... what I'm asking isn't the probability either ( it cant be- its greater than 1 ). Perhaps I have misinterpreted the definition of "Odds". If we roll a 6 sided dice the Odds of rolling a 6 are 1:5

Odds = P ( rolling 6 ) P ( not rolling 6 ) = 1 6 5 6 = 1 5 = 1 : 5 \text{Odds} = \frac{ P( \text{ rolling 6} )}{ P( \text{ not rolling 6} ) } = \frac{ \frac{1}{6} }{ \frac{5}{6} } = \frac{1}{5} = 1:5

So why in this case are the Odds not 99 50 : 1 \frac{99}{50}:1

In the meantime I've changed the wording to asking for the relative likelihood, and provide that definition. Maybe that bandages the issue?

Eric Roberts - 1 month, 3 weeks ago

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