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If x + 1 x = 3 x + \dfrac 1x = \sqrt 3 , find the value of x 15 + 1 x 15 = ? x^{15} + \dfrac1{x^{15}} = \ ? .


The answer is 0.

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9 solutions

I have another easy solution.

Then,

That's the solution!!

I think this is the best solution..

Akhil Bansal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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indeed - very simple and elegant

Iqbal Mohammad - 5 years, 6 months ago

Directly find roots of quadratic equation in terms of cube root of unity, put in equation. The simplest way. See my solution

Prince Loomba - 4 years, 5 months ago

I follow everything but am a little puzzled by the last line in your solution. Sorry, I'm not a mathematician so I can't easily write equations, but why in the line that starts "Then" do you have a minus sign in front of the parentheses that contain minus one over x to the 3rd power with a power of 5 outside the parentheses? If x to the 3rd is minus one over x to the 3rd, why are you suddenly minusing minus one over x to the 3rd? Doesn't that make that term equal to positive one over x to the 15th power and therefore the answer would be 2 over x to the 15th power instead of 0? Maybe it was just a typo or maybe I'm missing something. Hopefully this is clear!

Robert Schalit - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Sorry, my bad!! Yeah, This was typing mistake!! Thank you!! :)

Muhammad Rasel Parvej - 5 years, 6 months ago

You know what I some what used this logic only to solve the problem as I didn't know the identity (x + y)^5.

Anyways , it's a good solution. Keep it up!!

Nashita Rahman - 4 years, 5 months ago

What the heck? You end up with a 1/0 . That's undefined. 0 can't be the answer

Charles Tremaine - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Sorry that I don't get what you're trying to say! Would you please clarify your statement, please?

Muhammad Rasel Parvej - 5 years, 6 months ago

They're not asking for the value of x. They're asking for x to the 15th plus one over x to the 15th. Two different things.

Robert Schalit - 5 years, 6 months ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Nov 30, 2015

x + 1 x = 3 ( x + 1 x ) 3 = ( 3 ) 3 x 3 + 3 x + 3 x + 1 x 3 = 3 3 x 3 + 3 3 + 1 x 3 = 3 3 x 3 + 1 x 3 = 0 \begin{aligned} x + \frac{1}{x} & = \sqrt{3} \\ \Rightarrow \left( x + \frac{1}{x} \right)^3 & = \left(\sqrt{3}\right)^3 \\ x^3 + 3x + \frac{3}{x} + \frac{1}{x^3} & = 3\sqrt{3} \\ x^3 + 3\sqrt{3} + \frac{1}{x^3} & = 3\sqrt{3} \\ x^3 + \frac{1}{x^3} & = 0 \end{aligned}

And:

( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) 3 = 0 x 9 + 3 x 3 + 3 x 3 + 1 x 9 = 0 x 9 + 3 ( 0 ) + 1 x 9 = 0 x 9 + 1 x 9 = 0 \begin{aligned} \left( x^3 + \frac{1}{x^3} \right)^{3} & = 0 \\ x^9 + 3x^3 + \frac{3}{x^3} + \frac{1}{x^9} & = 0 \\ x^9 + 3(0) + \frac{1}{x^9} & = 0 \\ \Rightarrow x^9 + \frac{1}{x^9} & = 0 \end{aligned}

Similarly,

( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) 5 = 0 x 15 + 5 x 9 + 10 x 3 + 10 x 3 + 5 x 9 + 1 x 15 = 0 x 15 + 1 x 15 + 5 ( x 9 + 1 x 9 ) + 10 ( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) = 0 x 15 + 1 x 15 + 5 ( 0 ) + 10 ( 0 ) = 0 x 15 + 1 x 15 = 0 \begin{aligned} \left( x^3 + \frac{1}{x^3} \right)^{5} & = 0 \\ x^{15} + 5x^9 + 10x^3 + \frac{10}{x^3} + \frac{5}{x^9} + \frac{1}{x^{15}} & = 0 \\ x^{15} + \frac{1}{x^{15}} + 5\left(x^9 + \frac{1}{x^9}\right) + 10 \left(x^3 + \frac{1}{x^3}\right) & = 0 \\ x^{15} + \frac{1}{x^{15}} + 5\left(0\right) + 10 \left(0 \right) & = 0 \\ \Rightarrow x^{15} + \frac{1}{x^{15}} & = \boxed{0} \end{aligned}

I should have done this way.It was a lot simpler.Instead I made a quadratic equation and used quadratic formula to get the value of x(which was a complex number).Then I converted it into Polar Form and used DeMoivre's Theorem to raise it to 15th power. I got the answer as i.Then I substituted it back to get the answer as 0.

Anupam Nayak - 5 years, 6 months ago

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It is okay. It is good that you have learnt.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 6 months ago

that is the way i did it as well...a long way for a simple answer...

Preston Wigfall - 5 years, 6 months ago
Chan Lye Lee
Dec 4, 2015

Let x = cos ( θ ) + i sin ( θ ) x=\cos(\theta)+i\sin(\theta) . Then x + 1 x = 2 cos ( θ ) = 3 x+\frac{1}{x}=2\cos(\theta)=\sqrt{3} . Take θ = π 6 \theta=\frac{\pi}{6} . Now x 15 = cos ( 15 θ ) + i sin ( 15 θ ) = 0 + i x^{15}=\cos(15\theta)+i\sin(15\theta)=0+i . Then x 15 + 1 x 15 = 2 cos ( 15 θ ) = 0 x^{15}+\frac{1}{x^{15}}=2\cos(15\theta)=0 .

By far the simplest method.

David Moore - 5 years, 6 months ago

Mind blowing

challapalli charan - 5 years, 6 months ago

I used De Moivres Formula here.. Solving for the positive root we get, sqrt3/2 +(1/2)(i) then used The formula for the 15th power

Prince Loomba
Jan 5, 2017

We get the solution as i w , i w 2 iw,iw^2 put in the equation, use w 3 = 1 w^3=1 as w w is cube root of unity, i 3 = i i^3=-i to get result as 0 0 .

Hung Nghiem Xuan
Dec 10, 2015

Assuming that f ( n ) = x n + y n f(n) = x^{n} + y^{n} , so we have: 1. f ( 1 ) = 3 . 1. f(1)=\sqrt{3}. \quad 2. f ( 2 ) = 1. 2. f(2)=1. \quad 3. f ( n + 1 ) = 3 f ( n ) f ( n 1 ) . 3. f(n+1)=\sqrt{3}f(n) - f(n-1). \quad By resolving this we can see that f ( n + 6 ) = f ( n ) f(n+6) = f(n) with every n > = 3 n>=3 , so f ( 15 ) = f ( 3 ) = 0. f(15)=f(3)=0.

Joshua Chin
Dec 10, 2015

( x + 1 x ) = 3 (x+\frac { 1 }{ x } )=\sqrt { 3 }

( x + 1 x ) 3 = x 3 + 3 ( x + 1 x ) + 1 x 3 x 3 + 1 x 3 = x 3 + 1 x 3 3 ( x + 1 x ) = 3 3 3 3 = 0 { (x+\frac { 1 }{ x } ) }^{ 3 }={ x }^{ 3 }+3(x+\frac { 1 }{ x } )+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } \\ { x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } ={ x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } -3(x+\frac { 1 }{ x } )\\ \qquad \qquad =3\sqrt { 3 } -3\sqrt { 3 } \\ \qquad \qquad =0

It can also be observed that x 15 + 1 x 15 = ( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) ( x 12 + 1 x 12 ) ( x 9 + 1 x 9 ) { x }^{ 15 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 15 } } =({ x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } )({ x }^{ 12 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 12 } } )\quad -\quad ({ x }^{ 9 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 9 } } )

( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) ( x 12 + 1 x 12 ) = 0 ( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) = 0 ({ x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } )({ x }^{ 12 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 12 } } )\quad =\quad 0\\ \because \quad ({ x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } )=0

( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) 3 = x 9 + 1 x 9 + 3 ( x 3 + 1 x 3 ) x 9 + 1 x 9 = 3 3 3 3 = 0 { ({ x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } ) }^{ 3 }={ x }^{ 9 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 9 } } +3({ x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } )\\ { x }^{ 9 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 9 } } =3\sqrt { 3 } -3\sqrt { 3 } \\ \qquad \qquad =0

Thus

x 15 + 1 x 15 = 0 0 = 0 { x }^{ 15 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 15 } } =0-0\\ \qquad \qquad \quad =0

Plus it can also be generalised that when

x 3 + 1 x 3 = 3 { x }^{ 3 }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ 3 } } =\sqrt { 3 }

x y + 1 x y = 0 y = 3 n { x }^{ y }+\frac { 1 }{ { x }^{ y } } =0\\ y={ 3 }^{ n }\quad

when n is element of integer and n 0 n\neq 0

Moderator note:

Good observation about x 3 + 1 x 3 x^3 + \frac{1}{ x^3 } and x 9 + 1 x 9 x^9 + \frac{1}{ x^9} .

In fact, your claim at the end can be strengthened. We have x m + 1 x m = 0 x ^ m + \frac{1}{ x^m } = 0 for numbers of the form m = 3 n m = 3 n , and not just those of the form m = 3 n m = 3 ^n .

Allan Zhao
Dec 9, 2015

Clearly, x 0 x\neq 0 . Multiplying both sides by x x then using quadratics equation on x 2 3 x + 1 = 0 x^2-\sqrt{3}x+1=0 , we have x = 3 ± i 2 = c i s ( ± π 6 ) x=\dfrac{\sqrt{3}\pm i}{2}=cis \left(\pm \dfrac{\pi}{6}\right) .

It doesn't matter which root we use for x x because r 1 15 = 1 r 2 15 r_1^{15}=\dfrac{1}{r_2^{15}} if we let those two roots be r 1 r_1 and r 2 r_2 . So WLOG, let x = c i s ( π 6 ) x=cis\left(\dfrac{\pi}{6}\right) . Then x 15 + 1 x 15 = c i s ( 15 π 6 ) + c i s ( 15 π 6 ) = 2 cos ( 5 π 2 ) = 0 x^{15}+\dfrac{1}{x^{15}}=cis\left(\dfrac{15\pi}{6}\right)+cis\left(-\dfrac{15\pi}{6}\right)=2\cos\left(\dfrac{5\pi}{2}\right)=0 .

Ramiel To-ong
Dec 4, 2015

nice problem

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