The Earth orbits around the Sun because it has angular momentum. If we stopped the Earth in orbit and then let it fall straight towards the Sun, how long would it take to reach the sun in seconds ?
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As kindly pointed out by Mr. Mark H., a minus sign is missing on the RHS of the first equation, and in the third integral in the last equation, the integrand should have been r / ( R − r ) .
Here is the solution with typos corrected and with more details for better readability.
When the Earth is stopped, the energy of the Earth is its potential energy at r = R . Then the conservation of energy equation for radial motion is 2 m ( d t d r ) 2 − r G M m = − R G M m , where symbols have standard meaning. Note that as the Earth falls towards the Sun, motion is purely radial and the kinetic energy in the conservation of energy contains only contribution from radial velocity.
For the Earth moving towards the Sun, the radial velocity is negative and hence we must have, from the above equation, d t d r = − R 2 G M r R − r . Then the time of fall is T f a l l = ∫ 0 T f a l l d t = ∫ R 0 d r / d t d r = 2 G M R ∫ 0 R R − r r d r . Evaluation of the last integral can be done by changing variable from r to θ related to each other by r = R sin 2 θ , with the corresponding change in the limits from 0 to π / 2 , to obtain T f a l l = 2 π R 2 G M R . This can be related to the orbital period, 1 year, of the Earth: T f a l l = 4 2 1 G M 4 π 2 R 3 = 4 2 1 year = 4 2 3 . 1 4 7 7 × 1 0 7 s e c o n d s .
When the earth is suddenly stopped, shouldn't the kinetic energy be zero at the moment and only gravitational force must be considered. I know this is incorrect. But why?
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The initial kinetic energy is zero! We are assuming there is no transverse motion, so the only motion is radial. Thus the kinetic energy of the Earth is 2 1 m r ˙ 2 . When t = 0 , r = R and r ˙ = 0 (when the missing minus sign in the first equation is added). Thus there is no radial motion to begin with, and hence no kinetic energy.
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You are right. I realized my mistake. I was using equation of motion to find the time without taking into account the fact that acceleration is not constant.
A couple of typos. There should be a minus sign on the RHS of the first equation, and the last integrand of the final equation should be R − r r , but otherwise spot on!
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Yes. Sorry for those types. Thanks for pointing out.
Would you kindly show the primitive function of * R − r r * ? Thank you.
(indeed I followed the same reasoning, but I "ran aground" at that point..)
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Try the substitution r = R sin 2 θ ...
Please see my corrected post above.
Because the mass of the Sun is very big, in compare with the mass of the Earth, we can assume that only the Earth moves and the Sun stays.
If the Earth falls straight towards the Sun, we can pretend that the orbit of the Earth is an ellipse with minor axis by 0 and major axis 2a=r, so a = 2 r .
According to Kepler's third law, we have: a 3 T 2 = G M 4 π 2 .
Therefore, time for the Earth to reach the Sun is: t = 2 T = π 8 G M r 3 = 5 . 5 6 . 1 0 6 ( s ) .
I guess you could probably remove the assumption of the Sun staying still by replacing M with M + m in your calculations.
I did the same, just considered that a straight line is a degenerate ellipse with the foci at the ends.
Consider the fall to the sun as a degenerate elliptical orbit. Its semimajor axis is 0.5 AU. From Kepler's third law, we immediately have ( 2 t ) 2 = ( 0 . 5 ) 3 , where t is measured in years (and is multiplied by 2 because t is only half of the entire period of the orbit). Therefore, t = 0 . 1 7 7 years, or 5 . 5 6 ∗ 1 0 6 seconds.
Given is a bunch of data about the masses of the sun and earth, the radius of the earth's orbit, and Newton's universal constant of gravitation. But, you do not need any of that stuff—all you need to know is Kepler's first and third laws and the fact that the period of earth's (approximately circular) orbit is one year.
Kepler's first law states that the orbit of a planet is an ellipse with a semi major axis a and with the sun at one focus of the ellipse. A circular orbit has a semi major axis equal to the radius of the circle, so a 1 = R E where RE is the radius of the earth's orbit; the eccentricity of a circle is 0 . The other extreme is an ellipse with eccentricity 1 which is a straight line from the sun to the earth and so the semi major axis for a "dropped earth" is a 2 = R E / 2 . Of course, this is not an orbit you will actually see in nature because there is no such thing as a point mass and the speed of the earth when the two point masses coincide would be infinite, but if we can cleverly deduce the period of this orbit, one-half that period will be the answer to this question.
Kepler's third law states that the square of the period T of an orbit is proportional to the cube of its semi major axis, so
T 1 2 / T 2 2 = a 1 3 / a 2 3 = R E 3 / ( R E / 2 ) 3 = 8 .
So, T 2 = T 1 / √ 8 = 0 . 3 5 4 years. So, the time to go half a period is 0 . 1 7 7 years= 6 4 . 6 days, which when converted to seconds give 5 . 5 6 × 1 0 6
If the distance between Sun (mass M ) and Earth (mass m ) is r , then the acceleration of the Sun is r 2 − m G , and the Earth's is r 2 − M G , so the total acceleration is (\frac{-(m+M)G}{r^2}).
r ¨ = r 2 − ( m + M ) G = r 2 − γ
∫ 0 t r ˙ r ¨ d t = ∫ 0 t r 2 − γ r ˙ d t
∫ 0 t r ˙ d r ˙ = ∫ 0 t r 2 − γ d r
2 r ˙ 2 − 2 r ˙ ( 0 ) 2 = 2 r ˙ 2 = r 0 r γ ( r 0 − r ) Taking the negative square root as the velocity is negative: r ˙ = − r 0 2 γ r r 0 − r
− r 0 2 γ ∫ 0 t d t = − r 0 2 γ Δ t = ∫ 0 t r 0 − r r d r
Let r = r 0 cos ( u ) :
− r 0 2 γ Δ t = ∫ 0 t sin ( u ) cos ( u ) − 2 r 0 cos ( u ) sin ( u ) d u
r 0 3 2 γ Δ t = 2 ∫ 0 t cos 2 ( u ) d u
r 0 3 2 γ Δ t = ∫ 0 t 1 + cos ( 2 u ) d u
r 0 3 2 γ Δ t = [ u + 2 1 sin ( 2 u ) ] 0 t
r 0 3 2 γ Δ t = u ( t ) − u ( 0 ) + [ sin ( u ) cos ( u ) ] 0 t
Noting that sin ( u ) = r r 0 − r ,
r 0 3 2 γ Δ t = arccos ( r 0 r ) − arccos ( 1 ) + [ r 0 r ( r 0 − r ) ] 0 t
Δ t = ( m + M ) G 2 r 0 3 [ arccos ( r 0 r ) + [ r 0 r ( r 0 − r ) ]
Letting r = 0 ,
Δ t = ( m + M ) G 2 r 0 3 2 π
I solved the differential equation r ′ ′ = r 2 γ to get:
r = ( 2 3 t 2 γ + r 0 3 / 2 ) 2 / 3
which seems to work when you substitute it back in. However, γ is negative so this gives complex numbers in r and I wasn't sure what to do from there.
What method did you use to solve it?
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Let v = r ′ ( t ) , then r ′ ′ = v d r d v , so v d r d v = r 2 γ which is a first order equation that can be solved by separation of variables: ∫ v d v 2 1 v 2 v 2 v r ′ r ′ ⋅ r 1 / 2 ∫ r 1 / 2 d t d r d t ∫ r 1 / 2 d r 3 2 r 3 / 2 r = ∫ r 2 γ d r = − r γ + C = r − 2 γ + C = r − 2 γ = H r − 1 / 2 + C where H = − 2 γ = H + C = ∫ H d t + C = ∫ H d t + C = H t + C = ( 2 3 H t + C ) 2 / 3 and to meet the initial value conditions ( r = r 0 at t = 0 ) we have C = r 0 3 / 2 .
By using Kepler's Third Law, we may obtain equation as below:
a 3 T 2 = G M 4 π 2
If the Earth's orbit is an ellipse, hence the time required is half a period then the length of its major axis is a = 2 R
t = 2 T
t = 2 π 2 G M R 3
t = 5 . 5 6 × 1 0 6
We can assume the path of Earth falling to the Sun equivalent to an ellipse with semiminor axis nearly zero and semimajor axis nearly: a= \frac{R}{2} where R is the distance from Sun to Earth. Use the third formular of Doppler: \frac{a^3}{T^2} = \frac{GM}{a\pi^2} where M is mass of the Sun Then we can calculate that T= 5.56E+6 seconds
I forgot something, we must divide T by 2 to obtain the result because the time it takes to the Sun is haft a revolution.
Typo!!
None of the solutions above have taken into account the Sun's kinetic energy. Let's try doing so. If E is the total mechanic energy, then
E = − d G m M = 2 m v 2 + 2 M V 2 − r G m M ,
where v and V are the Earth's and the Sun's velocities when they are separated by a distance r and d is their distance at time t = 0 . Momentum must be constant therefore we may write
v 2 = 1 + M m 2 G M ( r 1 − d 1 ) .
But v = r ′ ( t ) since v is Earth's velocity and r ′ would be the RELATIVE velocity between the Earth and the Sun. Knowing that it is easy to find the right relation:
d t d r = 2 G M ( 1 + M m ) ( r 1 − d 1 ) .
Under integration from r = 0 to r = d and finding t :
t = 2 2 G M ( 1 + M m ) π d 3 / 2 .
sir i have used calculatin and newtons constant formula by doing some maths in mass of sun and earth and using clue and reading the related books and some help of my maths teacher.
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By conservation of energy, when the Earth is stopped, 2 m ( d t d r ) 2 − r G M m = R G M m , where symbols have standard meaning. For the Earth moving towards the Sun, d t d r = − R 2 G M r R − 1 Then the time of fall is T = ∫ 0 T d t = ∫ R 0 d r / d t d r = 2 G M R ∫ 0 R R − r R d r = 2 π R 2 G M R .