Arrangement in motion

In the arrangement shown in figure, the mass of the body A is 4 times that of body B. The height h=20 cm . At a certain instant, the body B is released and the system is set in motion. What is the maximum height (in cm), the body B will go up? Assume enough space above B and A sticks to the ground. ( g = 10 m s 2 g= 10ms^{-2} )


The answer is 60.

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3 solutions

Nishant Sharma
Jul 6, 2014

We'll work in S.I. and then finally covert our answer to C.G.S..

Let m A = 4 m B = 4 m m_A=4m_B=4m (say). Let tension in the string while it is taut be T T From constraint relations a B 2 = a A = a \frac{a_B}{2}=a_A=a (say).

Then Newton's second law yields

T m g = 2 m a ( i ) T-mg=2ma\;---(i)

4 m g 2 T = 4 m a ( i i ) 4mg-2T=4ma\;---(ii)

Now 2 × ( i ) + ( i i ) 2\times(i)+(ii) gives

a = g 4 \displaystyle\,a=\frac{g}{4} .

So for motion of A A till it hits ground after which string becomes slack( T = 0 \rightarrow\,T=0 ) due to sticking, we have

1 5 = 1 2 a t 1 2 t 1 = 8 5 g \displaystyle\,\frac{1}{5}=\frac{1}{2}\cdot\,a\cdot\,t_1^2\rightarrow\,t_1=\sqrt{\frac{8}{5g}} .

During this time B B travels a distance d 1 = 1 2 2 a t 1 2 = 2 5 \displaystyle\,d_1=\frac{1}{2}\cdot\,2a\cdot\,t_1^2=\frac{2}{5} .

At this point velocity of B v = 2 a t 1 = 2 g 5 \displaystyle\,v=2a\cdot\,t_1=\sqrt{\frac{2g}{5}} . After this T = 0 T=0

d 2 = v 2 2 g = 1 5 \rightarrow\,d_2=\displaystyle\frac{v^2}{2g}=\frac{1}{5} .

So total distance moved by B is d = d 1 + d 2 = 3 5 m = 60 c m d=d_1+d_2=\frac{3}{5}\,m=\boxed{60\,cm} .

most people would forget the vertical motion after the string becomes slack.

Sai Prasanth Rao - 6 years, 9 months ago

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And then a = g a = g and v = 2 g h v = \sqrt{2gh} .

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago

Nice !! But I used Energy conservation by using constrained equation rapidly ! It is much less calculating ! In fact I solved it orally :)

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 7 months ago

Can you please explain why a B 2 = a A \frac{a_{B}}{2}=a_{A} ? I was expecting equal values.

Shubhangi Atre - 6 years, 7 months ago

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When two strings are connected to one pulley, the effective s s of thread it 2 × s 2\times s of pulley.

2 s A = s B \Rightarrow 2s_A = s_B

Differentiating twice, 2 a A = a B \boxed{2a_A = a_B}

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago
Kishore S. Shenoy
Aug 28, 2015

This question came in Problems in General Physics by I E Irodov

Q.No: 76 Physical Fundamentals of Mechanics.

Solution \large \text{Solution}

4 m g 2 T = 4 m a 2 T 2 m g = 4 m a a = g 4 s a 2 h g 2 Velocity when the other block touches the floor is v 2 = 2 g h And further, h = h H = 3 h \begin{aligned} 4mg - 2T &= 4ma\\ 2T - 2mg &= 4ma\\ \Rightarrow a = \frac{g}{4}\\\\ \begin{array}{l|c|r}\hline s&a\\ \hline 2h&\dfrac{g}{2}\\\hline\end{array}\\\\ \text{Velocity when}&\text{ the other block touches the floor is}\\ v^2 &= 2gh\\ \text{And further, } h' &= h\\ \Rightarrow \boxed{H = 3h}\end{aligned}

Michael Luo
Oct 20, 2014

Found another solution online: (it uses energy conservation) http://irodovsolutionsmechanics.blogspot.in/2007/08/irodov-problem-176.html

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