A Minimum value sum

Algebra Level 3

The minimum value of x 4 x 2 24 x + 145 + x 4 23 x 2 2 x + 145 \sqrt{x^4 - x^2 - 24x + 145} + \sqrt{x^4 - 23x^2 - 2x + 145} can be expressed in the form a b a\sqrt{b} , where a a and b b are integers, with b b is not divisible by the square of any prime. What is the value of a + b a+b ?


The answer is 13.

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1 solution

Yash Singhal
Nov 16, 2014

The above expression can be factorized into:

( x 2 1 ) 2 + ( x 12 ) 2 + ( x 2 12 ) 2 + ( x 1 ) 2 \sqrt{(x^{2}-1)^{2}+(x-12)^{2}}+\sqrt{(x^{2}-12)^{2}+(x-1)^{2}}

Now, we have to think geometrically :)

By observation, the above factorized expression is a form of Distance Formula on the Cartesian Plane.

Hence, we get the points on the Cartesian Plane as ( x 2 , x ) , ( 1 , 12 ) (x^{2},x),(1,12) and ( 12 , 1 ) (12,1)

Let us join these points to see the magic :)

After joining the points, we get a Triangle.

Now, let the sides of the triangle be a , b a,b and c c where c c is the side representing the distance between the points ( 1 , 12 ) (1,12) and ( 12 , 1 ) (12,1) .

By the Triangle Inequality in the above triangle formed, we get:

a + b c a+b≥c

c = 11 2 c=11\sqrt{2} (By using the Distance Formula between the points ( 1 , 12 ) (1,12) and ( 12 , 1 ) (12,1)

Hence, the minimum value of our original expression is 11 2 \huge{11\sqrt{2}} .

You must show that equality indeed occurs, to conclude that 11 2 11\sqrt 2 is indeed the minimum.

Equality in Triangle inequality occurs when the three points are collinear. So the line joining ( 12 , 1 ) (12,1) and ( 1 , 12 ) (1,12) : y = 13 x y=13-x must intersect the parabola y = x 2 y=x^2 at some point. Equating we get the equation x 2 = 13 x x^2=13-x , and solving we get x = 1 2 ( ± 53 1 ) x=\frac{1}{2}\left(\pm\sqrt{53}-1\right) . We can check that equality occurs at the positive root.

Jubayer Nirjhor - 6 years, 6 months ago

it is awesome, but i just wonder how many people can actually factorize the equation for first step

Zhen Hui Chong - 3 years, 8 months ago

everything is perfect! :D except.. you could have mentioned that we can actually use the triangle inequality in this case as the line joining ( 1 , 12 ) (1,12) and ( 12 , 1 ) (12,1) actually cuts the parabola y = x 2 y=x^{2} because, if that were not the case, we would have to think differently... i just think that pointing out the above fact completes the whole solution :D

Aritra Jana - 6 years, 6 months ago

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Thanks! I completely forgot to write it.

Yash Singhal - 6 years, 6 months ago

That is just awesome!!

Adarsh Kumar - 6 years, 6 months ago

Instead of geometry, use, √a+√b≥(ab)^1/4 Where a,b are compared expressions with the question.

At minimum point, √a+√b=(ab)^1/4 Or,a=b, Now simply solve the equation. And use the value of x in (ab)^1/4. This is the requirement

Ritabrata Roy - 3 years, 1 month ago

I am the 244 the solver

Manoj Gupta - 2 years, 4 months ago

there is another solution,we can derivate whole function and equal to 0.Those are the candidates for minimum.After manipulating we get 4x^7-48x^6-102x^5+1219x^4+528x^3-7165x^2-314x+1885=0, it's obvious that this polynome is diveded by x^2+x-13,so we get (x^2+x-13)(4x^5-52x^4+2x^3+541x^2-145)=0,now we find all roots annd get values -4.14,3.14,-2.84,-0.54,0.51,3.84,12.0226 and we calculate that minimum is about 3.14 which is positive solution of x^2+x-13=0,exactly x=(-1+√53)/2. Now we replace this value in our function and we get after few calculations that minimum value is 11√2...

Nikola Djuric - 6 years, 6 months ago

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You're derivative manipulation is incorrect, which explains the plethora of extraneous solutions. When you set the derivative equal to zero, by the first derivative test, there are only 3 solutions possible, as the polynomial is cubic. The only three solutions are 3.140005, -2.84455, and -0.538474. Since f(x) changes from negative to positive when x = 3.14, then f(3.14) is a minimum, and f(3.14) yields 11 root 2. The bottom line is, the manipulation you created, which yielded your septic equation, is absolutely incorrect (hence the 4 extraneous solutions.) Such an algebraic manipulation, is not even possible. So yeah, sorry!

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