An algebra problem by Asher Joy

Algebra Level 2

Let a , b , c a,b,c be positive real numbers, such that a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 989 a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 989 , and ( a + b ) 2 + ( a + c ) 2 + ( b + c ) 2 = 2013 (a+b)^2 + (a+c)^2 + (b+c)^2 = 2013 . Find a + b + c a+b+c


The answer is 32.

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4 solutions

Asher Joy
Apr 8, 2014

Expanding the longer equation: 2 a 2 + 2 b 2 + 2 c 2 + 2 a b + 2 b c + 2 a c = 2013 2a^2+ 2b^2 + 2c^2 +2ab + 2bc + 2ac = 2013 We know that: 2 a 2 + 2 b 2 + 2 c 2 = 2 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) = 989 2 = 1978 2a^2+ 2b^2 + 2c^2 = 2*(a^2+ b^2 + c^2) = 989*2 = 1978 Therefore 2 a b + 2 b c + 2 a c = 2013 1978 = 35 2ab + 2bc + 2ac = 2013-1978 = 35

With some random thinking, we stumble upon this: ( a + b + c ) 2 = a 2 + 2 a b + b 2 + 2 a c + 2 b c + c 2 (a+b+c)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 + 2ac + 2bc + c^2 ; ( a + b + c ) 2 = ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + ( 2 a b + 2 a c + 2 b c ) = 989 + 35 = 1024. (a+b+c)^2 = (a^2 + b^2 + c^2) + (2ab + 2ac + 2bc) = 989 + 35 = 1024. Taking the square root we get the desired answer:

a + b + c = 32 \boxed{a+b+c = 32}

(oops...forgot a title for the problem!)

We have equation: (a+b+c)^2 + a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = (a+b)^2 + (b+c)^2 + (c+a)^2 => result a+b+c = 32

Tuan Anh Le - 7 years, 2 months ago

You could have also factored the longer equation to ( a + b + c ) 2 + a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 2013 (a+b+c)^2 + a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 2013 , substituted the value for a 2 + b 2 + c 2 a^2 + b^2 + c^2 and taken the square root. A few less steps though.

Awesome problem, Asher Joy! Did it make it by yourself?

Guilherme Dela Corte - 7 years, 2 months ago

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Actually not. I got it from Purple Comet last year. I liked it because I got it right when I did it :)

Asher Joy - 7 years, 2 months ago

I solved exactly as Asher did it.

Eloy Machado - 7 years, 2 months ago
Louis Abraham
Apr 10, 2014

This is my solution : ( a , b , c f ( a , b , c ) \sum_{a,b,c}{f(a,b,c)} is the sum of the 3 expressions obtained by permuting circularly a, b and c hence f ( a , b , c ) + f ( b , c , a ) + f ( c , a , b ) f(a,b,c)+f(b,c,a)+f(c,a,b) ) ( a + b + c ) 2 = a , b , c ( a 2 + 2 a b ) = a , b , c ( 2 a 2 + 2 a b ) a , b , c a 2 = 2013 989 = 1024 (a+b+c)^2 = \sum_{a,b,c} {(a^2+2ab)} = \sum_{a,b,c}{(2a^2+2ab)}-\sum_{a,b,c}{a^2} = 2013-989 = 1024 . Then a + b + c = 32 a+b+c = 32 .

hey can you tell what is the name of this method i would like to get some explanation for it please help me out !!

Rishabh Jain - 7 years ago
Rishi Evans
Apr 25, 2014

(a+b+c)^2=a^2+b^2+c^2 +2ab +2ac +2bc...=>(a+b+c)^2=989+[a+b]^2+[b+c]^2+[a+c]^2-2[a^2+b^2+c^2]...=>[a+b=c]^2=2013-989=1024....=>[a+b+c]=32

( a + b ) 2 + ( a + c ) 2 + ( b + c ) 2 = 2013 (a+b)^2+(a+c)^2+(b+c)^2=2013 2 a 2 + 2 b 2 + 2 c 2 + 2 a b + 2 a c + 2 b c = 2013 2a^2+2b^2+2c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc=2013 if we subtact a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 989 a^2+b^2+c^2=989 from this equation we get: a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + 2 a b + 2 a c + 2 b c = 2013 989 a^2+b^2+c^2+2ab+2ac+2bc=2013-989 989 + 2 a b + 2 a c + 2 b c = 1024 989+2ab+2ac+2bc=1024 2 a b + 2 a c + 2 b c = 1024 989 = 35 2ab+2ac+2bc=1024-989=35 Recall that: ( a + b + c ) 2 = ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + ( 2 a c + 2 b c + 2 a b ) (a+b+c)^2=(a^2+b^2+c^2)+(2ac+2bc+2ab) a + b + c = 989 + 35 a+b+c=\sqrt{989+35} a + b + c = 1024 = 32 a+b+c=\sqrt{1024}=\boxed{32}

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