An algebra problem by Wildan Bagus Wicaksono

Algebra Level 2

Find the value of

( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 . \frac { { \left( { 3 }^{ 2017 } \right) }^{ 2 }-{ \left( { 3 }^{ 2015 } \right) }^{ 2 } }{ { \left( { 3 }^{ 2018 } \right) }^{ 2 }-{ \left( { 3 }^{ 2016 } \right) }^{ 2 } }.

1 3 \frac { 1 }{ 3 } 1 9 \frac { 1 }{ 9 } 1 27 \frac { 1 }{ 27 } 1 81 \frac { 1 }{ 81 }

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11 solutions

Relevant wiki: Rules of Exponents

= ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 = 3 4034 3 4030 3 4036 3 4032 = 3 4034 3 4030 3 2 ( 3 4034 3 4030 ) = 1 9 =\frac { { \left( { 3 }^{ 2017 } \right) }^{ 2 }-{ \left( { 3 }^{ 2015 } \right) }^{ 2 } }{ { \left( { 3 }^{ 2018 } \right) }^{ 2 }-{ \left( { 3 }^{ 2016 } \right) }^{ 2 } } \\ =\frac { { 3 }^{ 4034 }-{ 3 }^{ 4030 } }{ { 3 }^{ 4036 }-{ 3 }^{ 4032 } } \\ =\frac { { 3 }^{ 4034 }-{ 3 }^{ 4030 } }{ { 3 }^{ 2 }\left( { 3 }^{ 4034 }-{ 3 }^{ 4030 } \right) } \\ =\frac { 1 }{ 9 }

Verified with a calculator, 1/9th is the answer.

Anthony Varner - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Thanks for pointing it out. We have accidentally changed the answer. I've updated the answer. Those who previously answered 1 9 \frac19 has been marked correct.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

Wolfram Alpha also agrees.

Steven Yuan - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Wolfram says 1/9

S Chics - 3 years, 10 months ago

Frankly this is looking like at least 26% got this wrong. 1/9 by my reckoning.

Ed Sirett - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for pointing it out. We have accidentally changed the answer. I've updated the answer. Those who previously answered 1 9 \frac19 has been marked correct.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

I also got 1/9 as the answer, why 1/3?

Eddie Cheung - 3 years, 10 months ago

I got 1/9, not 1/3

Kurian George Binu - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for pointing it out. We have accidentally changed the answer. I've updated the answer. Those who previously answered 1 9 \frac19 has been marked correct.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

Dude, there a typo in 3rd step

genis dude - 3 years, 11 months ago

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What Genis said.

Jeannine Myer - 3 years, 10 months ago

This is the same exact answer i got , why is it wrong !?

Sandra Mounir Philippe - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Same here!

Kaushik Chandra - 3 years, 11 months ago

The answer is 1/9 so why is it wrong?

ben evans - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

I got 1/9. Explain to me how the answer is 1/3.

Chillwillybillysilly . - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

The answer is 1 9 . \dfrac{1}{9}.

Rocco Dalto - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

the answer is 1/9 , why is it incorrect

Cristina Hlevca - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for pointing it out. We have accidentally changed the answer. I've updated the answer. Those who previously answered 1 9 \frac19 has been marked correct.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

26% of people got this right :)

Laszlo Kocsis - 3 years, 10 months ago

In step 3 we can take out 3 4030 3^{4030} common, leaving 3 4 1 3 6 3 2 \frac{3^4-1}{3^6-3^2} which gives 80 720 \frac{80}{720} , simplifying to 1 9 \frac{1}{9}

Aaryan Maheshwari - 3 years, 10 months ago

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As I recall that time, I gave the key 1/9 and many answered correctly. But why change? Previously I apologized. But I remember I locked the answer is 1/9.

Wildan Bagus Wicaksono - 3 years, 10 months ago

Thee is typo I second step

genis dude - 3 years, 11 months ago

As I recall that time, I gave the key 1/9 and many answered correctly. But why change?

Wildan Bagus Wicaksono - 3 years, 10 months ago

I got 1/9 as well.

John Brocato - 3 years, 10 months ago

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As I recall that time, I gave the key 1/9 and many answered correctly. But why change? Previously I apologized. But I remember I locked the answer is 1/9.

Wildan Bagus Wicaksono - 3 years, 10 months ago

The answer is 1/9

shubham aggarwal - 3 years, 10 months ago

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As I recall that time, I gave the key 1/9 and many answered correctly. But why change? Previously I apologized. But I remember I locked the answer is 1/9.

Wildan Bagus Wicaksono - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for pointing it out. We have accidentally changed the answer. I've updated the answer. Those who previously answered 1 9 \frac19 has been marked correct.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

To website admin: it's pretty confusing when you answer a question correctly and get told it's wrong by the webpage. Kinda makes me not want to participate any more :(

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Yes, BUT - I've been here for a few years every day and this is the FIRST TIME I've ever seen this happen. So, don't worry!

Terry Smith - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

What is wrong with this problem? The answer is 1/9, this is the correct answer (i solved it by hand using two different ways and checked it in wolfram alpha to be sure). Why the problem says that the answer is 1/3?

Victor Paes Plinio - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for pointing it out. We have accidentally changed the answer. I've updated the answer. Those who previously answered 1 9 \frac19 has been marked correct.

Brilliant Mathematics Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

1/9 is the answer

Micah Gadbois - 3 years, 10 months ago

I came up with 1/1. Because 3 to the 4036 power minus 3 to the 4032 power is 3 to the 4th power which is 81 for the numerator The denominator is also 3 to the 4th power which is 81 and 81 over 81 is 1

Randy Simmons - 3 years, 10 months ago

This question is solved in the best possible way

anukool srivastava - 3 years, 8 months ago

Just in the last formula turn 10to30. "-,4034 , -- , (4010<4030),"

Wijidi Elot - 3 years, 10 months ago

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As I recall that time, I gave the key 1/9 and many answered correctly. But why change? Previously I apologized. But I remember I locked the answer is 1/9.

Wildan Bagus Wicaksono - 3 years, 10 months ago

L e t u = 2015 Let \hskip 0.5em u = 2015 \hskip 0.8em And then plug into the expression: = ( 3 u + 2 ) 2 ( 3 u ) 2 ( 3 u + 3 ) 2 ( 3 u + 1 ) 2 = 3 2 u × 3 4 3 2 u 3 2 u × 3 6 3 2 u × 3 2 = 3 2 u ( 3 4 1 ) 3 2 u ( 3 6 3 2 ) = 3 4 1 3 2 + 4 3 2 = 3 4 1 3 2 × 3 4 3 2 = ( 3 4 1 ) 3 2 ( 3 4 1 ) = 1 3 2 = 1 9 = \frac{ { \left ( {3} ^ { u+ 2 } \right) } ^ {2} - { \left( {3}^{u} \right) }^ {2} } {{ \left ( {3} ^ { u+ 3 } \right) } ^ {2} - { \left ( {3} ^ { u + 1 } \right) } ^ {2} } = \frac{ {3} ^ {2u} \times {3}^ {4} - {3} ^{2u} } { {3} ^ {2u} \times {3}^ {6} - {3} ^ {2u} \times {3}^ {2} } \\[0.5in] = \, \frac { {3} ^ {2u} \left ( {3} ^ {4} - 1 \right) } { {3} ^ {2u} \left ( 3 ^ 6 - 3 ^ 2 \right) } = \frac {3 ^ 4 - 1} {3 ^ {2 + 4} - 3 ^ 2} \\[0.5in] = \frac { 3^4 -1 } {3^2 \times 3^4 - 3^2} = \frac { \left(3^4 - 1 \right)} {3^2 \left( 3^4 - 1 \right) } \\[0.5in] = \frac {1} {3^2} = \, \boxed{ \dfrac {1} {9} }

Chew-Seong Cheong
Jul 17, 2017

( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 = 3 4034 3 4030 3 4036 3 4032 = 3 4030 ( 3 4 1 ) 3 4032 ( 3 4 1 ) = 1 3 2 = 1 9 \begin{aligned} \frac {\left(3^{2017}\right)^2-\left(3^{2015}\right)^2}{\left(3^{2018}\right)^2-\left(3^{2016}\right)^2} & = \frac {3^{4034}- 3^{4030}}{3^{4036}- 3^{4032}} = \frac {3^{4030}\left(3^4- 1\right)}{3^{4032}\left(3^4- 1\right)} = \frac 1{3^2} = \boxed{\dfrac 19}\end{aligned}

Shawn Cooke
Jul 17, 2017

I would have expanded your denominator to 9(x^2-y^2), and we can eliminate both (x^2-y^2), so there isn't a need to apply a^2-b^2 = (a-b)(a+b).

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 10 months ago
Richard Desper
Jul 18, 2017

( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 \frac{(3^{2017})^2 - (3^{2015})^2}{(3^{2018})^2 - (3^{2016})^2} = ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 3 2 ( 3 2017 ) 2 3 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 = \frac{(3^{2017})^2 - (3^{2015})^2}{3^2*(3^{2017})^2 - 3^2*(3^{2015})^2} = 1 3 2 ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 = \frac{1}{3^2} * \frac{(3^{2017})^2 - (3^{2015})^2}{(3^{2017})^2 - (3^{2015})^2} = 1 3 2 = 1 9 = \frac{1}{3^2} = \frac{1}{9}

I'm a firm believer in avoiding unnecessary computations.

I'm a firm believer in avoiding unnecessary computations.

Yup, that's an important motto to be a good mathematician! =D

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 10 months ago
Brian Egedy
Jul 17, 2017

Initial expression:

( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 \frac{(3^{2017})^2-(3^{2015})^2}{(3^{2018})^2-(3^{2016})^2}

Apply Difference of Squares

( 3 2017 + 3 2015 ) ( 3 2017 3 2015 ) ( 3 2018 + 3 2016 ) ( 3 2018 3 2016 ) \frac{(3^{2017}+3^{2015})(3^{2017}-3^{2015})}{(3^{2018}+3^{2016})(3^{2018}-3^{2016})}

Divide each term by 3 2015 3^{2015}

3 2015 ( 3 2 + 3 0 ) ( 3 2 3 0 ) 3 2015 ( 3 3 + 3 1 ) ( 3 3 3 1 ) \frac{3^{2015}(3^{2}+3^{0})(3^{2}-3^{0})}{3^{2015}(3^{3}+3^{1})(3^{3}-3^{1})}

Simplify

( 9 + 1 ) ( 9 1 ) ( 27 + 3 ) ( 27 3 ) \frac{(9+1)(9-1)}{(27+3)(27-3)}

Simplify, Simplify

( 10 ) ( 8 ) ( 30 ) ( 24 ) \frac{(10)(8)}{(30)(24)} = ( 1 ) ( 1 ) ( 3 ) ( 3 ) \frac{(1)(1)}{(3)(3)} = 1 9 \frac{1}{9}

I made x=3^2015 . Then boils down to (81x^2-x^2)/(279x^2-9x^2)=1/9 . Much like others above. Would perhaps have been better to make x=(3^2015)^2 . Good ole retrospectoscope.

Tristan Graham - 3 years, 10 months ago
Akash Sahukara
Jul 18, 2017

Take (3^2015)^2 common on numerator and denominator then over the both you'll get (81➖ 1)➗ (729➖ 9)= 80/720= 1/9

LaTex: We notice that the common factor is : ( 3 2015 ) 2 \huge \text{We notice that the common factor is : } \; \left (3^{2015}\right )^{2}

LaTex: ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 = ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 4 ) ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 6 ) ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2 ) \Huge \frac{\left(3^{2017}\right)^2 - \left(3^{2015}\right)^2} {\left (3^{2018}\right )^2 - \left(3^{2016}\right)^2} = \frac{\left (3^{2015}\right)^2 \cdot\ \left(3^4\right) - \left(3^{2015}\right)^2} {\left (3^{2015}\right )^2 \cdot\ \left(3^6\right) - \left(3^{2015}\right)^2 \cdot\ \left(3^2\right)}

LaTex: ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 = ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( ( 3 4 ) 1 ) ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( ( 3 4 ) 1 ) ( 3 2 ) \Huge \frac{\left(3^{2017}\right)^2 - \left(3^{2015}\right)^2} {\left (3^{2018}\right )^2 - \left(3^{2016}\right)^2} = \frac{\left(3^{2015}\right )^2 \cdot\ \left(\left(3^4\right) - 1\right)} { \left(3^{2015}\right )^2 \cdot\ \left(\left(3^4\right) - 1 \right) \cdot\ \left(3^2\right)}

LaTex: ( 3 2017 ) 2 ( 3 2015 ) 2 ( 3 2018 ) 2 ( 3 2016 ) 2 = 1 3 2 = 1 9 \Huge \frac{\left(3^{2017}\right)^2 - \left(3^{2015}\right)^2} {\left (3^{2018}\right )^2 - \left(3^{2016}\right)^2} = \frac{1}{3^2} = \color{#D61F06}{\boxed{ \frac{1}{9}}}

[(3^2017)²-(3^2015)²]/[(3^2018)²-(3^2016)²] a²-b²= (a+b)(a-b) =[(3^2017+3^2015)(3^2017-3^2015)] / [(3^2018+3^2016)(3^2018-3^2016)] =[3^2015(3²+1)3^2015(3²-1)] / [3^2016(3²+1)3^2016(3^2-1) Notebook = 3²-1 and 3²+1 habis dibagi =3^2015+2015-2016-2016 =3^-2 =1/3² =1/9 Just it.. Thank you 😀

Joshua Powles
Jul 20, 2017

If you take a factor of 3 2 3^2 out of the denominator, you end up with the numerator.

Amed Lolo
Jul 18, 2017

Put 3^2015=k by substituting in the expression( (k×9)^2-k^2)÷((k×27)^2-(k×3)^2) expression=(81-1)÷(27^2-3^2)=80÷(30×24)=1÷9##

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