A pretty weird robbery

Logic Level 3

In a town there are 2 types of persons , either members of the family true either members of the family false. Remind that true members always tell the truth while false always lie. Last night the town's supermarket was robed. The police decided that there were 2 robbers and arrested 5 suspects ( A , B , C , D and E). All of them were interviewed and made 2 statements. Knowing the statements which are presented below find out who are the 2 robbers.

A. 1. At most one from B and E is guilty.
2. D is one of the robbers.

B. 1. A and C are both guilty.
2. E is not guilty.

C. 1. At least one from D and E is guilty.
2. It is unfair to suspect B.

D. 1. Exactly one from B and A is guilty.
2. C is the second robber.

E. 1. Neither C nor D are guilty. 2. A is surely one of the robbers.

Insert your answer using the values 2 and 1 in the order from A to E where 2 means robber and 1 means that the person isn't guilty. For example if A and B are guilty your answer should be 22111.

Try to deduce who is guilty based only on the explicit statements given by the problem.

You can assume that none of the suspects affirms he/she is not guilty unless he/she explicitly affirms so in their statements.


The answer is 11122.

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3 solutions

Saya Suka
Feb 11, 2021

A : At most one from B and E is guilty. D is one of the robbers.

B : A and C are both guilty. E is not guilty.

C : At least one from D and E is guilty. It is unfair to suspect B.

D : Exactly one from B and A is guilty. C is the second robber.

E : Neither C nor D are guilty. A is surely one of the robbers.

10 statements were given, but not many of them left a finality feeling by their yet to be proven conclusions. But even though we didn't know whether they're telling the truths or not, we can definitely tell apart those who're on the same page or being contradictory with one another.

(D/0) + (AC/E) + (X/B) + (C/0) + (A/CD)

With this, we can see that B & D are both accusing C in unison while E defended C & D while accusing A. Also, A accused D and B accused A along with C as we mentioned earlier.

Because E's and B's statements are not consistent with each other, in which they both accused A but towards C, one took an offensive stance while the other being defensive of C. This situation would never, ever happened if both of them (B & E) were members of the family True (who are always united in their truths) nor both B & E are from two different families (if they were, then they will fight all the way and won't even agree on one little thing). Thus, B and E must have been lying as members of the family False.

Since we know that they're both lying, then A can only be innocent and E the liar must have been guilty. Furthermore, at least one between C and D must also be guilty by the lies told by E.

Once we knew that E is definitely guilty, then C's first statement checked out, and C's second statement vouched for B's innocence.

From then on, we can clearly see that A's first statement is validated by the truthful C and a lying B (who got caught red-handed with telling lies). By now, we got to know that D is one of the robbers alongside E, too.

With innocents A & B told apart from guilty robbers E & D, it's crystal clear that D has been lying all along and C is another innocent suspect.

So, in conclusion we have
✓ 2 truthful suspects : C & A, and
✓✓ 3 lying suspects : B, E & D, and
✓✓✓ 3 innocent suspects : A, B & C, and
✓✓✓✓ 2 guilty suspects : E & D.


B is the only odd one out ; they even lied as an innocent suspect. When it's something in your blood, you just can't transfuse it all away....

Answer = 11122

The information of the number of guilty robbers amongst the 5 is totally unnecessary though it could be useful in reaching our conclusions.

Phi Li
Jun 6, 2016

One problem in this question is that there is a contradiction between B and E no matter what type of family member they are.

If they are both true, then B says that A and C are robbers while E says A and B are robbers. That is impossible, because there are only two robbers.

If they are both false, then you can prove that the robbers are D and E through B's claims while you can prove that C and D are robbers through E's claims.

If B is true and E is false, B's claims prove that A and C are robbers while E's claims prove that C and D are robbers.

If B is false and E is true, using B's claims will prove that D and E are robbers while E's claims prove that A and B are robbers.

Hmmmm , I think should verify your reasoning for some cases. I suppose you weren't attentive.

For the first case for being both true you can deduce from their claims just that A and C are guilty because E doesn't say that B is a robber anywhere so maybe you weren't attentive.

For the second case you are right. From E's 1st statement the 2 robbers should be C and D while from what B says in the second statement the E is a robber too anyway.

For the case B true and E false though you are not right. What does it mean that the claim made by E that "neither C nor D are guilty" is false , when is this statement false anyway?

For the case B false , E true yes from B's claims E is a robber. From the second statement of person B you can deduce that E is a robber because B lies in it. Because of E true which is taken as a case A is a robber too. Taking after this that E and A are both robbers as a conclusion from the conjunction of B's and E's second statements A's first claim is true since there are 2 robbers. But however A's second claim would be false as D should also be a robber besides A and E anyway.

After you check the reasoning for case B true and E false anyway can you prove that there is but anyway one solution to the problem ? That would be more interesting.

A A - 5 years ago

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By saying that neither C and D are guilty, E is saying that A and B are robbers.

Phi Li - 5 years ago

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Ah , I see what you meant now. I will edit the problem so that it doesn't make any longer anyway confusion.

E doesn't disclaim himself. None of them do , just their explicit statements have to be considered as paradoxical it may sound for a "logic" problem.

A A - 5 years ago
Collin Warner
May 23, 2016

Are you kidding me give the right awnser

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