An algebra problem by Phudish Prateepamornkul

Algebra Level 3

a x + b y = 40 a x 2 + b y 2 = 110 a x 3 + b y 3 = 310 a x 4 + b y 4 = 890 \begin{aligned} ax+by &=& 40 \\ ax^2+by^2 &=& 110 \\ ax^3+by^3 &=& 310 \\ ax^4+by^4 &=& 890 \end{aligned}

Let a , b , x , a,b,x, and y y be real variables satisfying the system of equations above.

Find the value of a x 5 + b y 5 ax^5+by^5 .


The answer is 2590.

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Mark Hennings
Jun 7, 2017

The sequence z j = a x j + b y j z_j \,=\, a x^j + b y^j will satisfy the recurrence relation z j + 2 ( x + y ) z j + 1 + x y z j = 0 j 1 z_{j+2} - (x+y)z_{j+1} + xy z_j \; = \; 0 \hspace{2cm} j \ge 1 and hence we obtain simultaneous equations 310 110 ( x + y ) + 40 x y = 0 890 310 ( x + y ) + 110 x y = 0 \begin{aligned} 310 - 110(x+y) + 40xy & = 0 \\ 890 - 310(x+y) + 110xy & = 0 \end{aligned} Thus we obtain x + y = 5 x+y=5 and x y = 6 xy = 6 . From this it follows that z 5 = 5 × 890 6 × 310 = 2590 z_5 = 5\times890 - 6\times310 = \boxed{2590} .


If we wanted, we could note that we must have x = 2 x=2 , y = 3 y=3 , and proceed from there to find a a and b b by solving the equations 2 a + 3 b = 40 4 a + 9 b = 110 \begin{aligned} 2a + 3b & = 40 \\ 4a + 9b & = 110 \end{aligned} obtaining a = 5 a=5 and b = 10 b=10 , so that z j = 5 × 2 j + 10 × 3 j z_j = 5\times2^j + 10\times3^j . This is not necessary to answer to question, though.

z j + 2 ( x + y ) z j + 1 + x y z j = 0 j 1 z_{j+2} - (x+y)z_{j+1} + xy z_j \; = \; 0 \hspace{2cm} j \ge 1

Got a proof for this?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years ago

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Try checking that x j x^j and y j y^j satisfy the relation...

Mark Hennings - 4 years ago

@Phudish Prateepamornkul A nice twist on this problem would be to not require that a , b , x , y a, b, x, y are all integers. As pointed out by Mark, what is important is that the values satisfy the recurrence relation.

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 12 months ago
Makoto Kohno
Jun 27, 2017

Let c n = a x n + b y n c_n=ax^n+by^n for n N n\in\mathbb{N}

Let d n = c n + 2 c n c n + 1 2 d_n=c_{n+2}c_{n}-{c_{n+1}}^2 for n N n\in\mathbb{N} .

By above, c 1 = 40 , c 2 = 110 , c 3 = 310 , c 4 = 890 c_1=40,c_2=110,c_3=310,c_4=890 and d 1 = 300 , d 2 = 1800 d_1=300,d_2=1800 .

Now d n = c n + 2 c n c n + 1 2 = ( a x n + 2 + b y n + 2 ) ( a x n + b y n ) ( a x n + b y n ) 2 = ( a 2 x 2 n + 2 + a b x n + 2 y n + a b x n y n + 2 + b 2 y 2 n + 2 ) ( a 2 x 2 n + 2 + 2 a b x n + 1 y n + 1 + b 2 y 2 n + 2 ) = a b ( x y ) 2 ( x y ) n \begin{aligned} d_n & = & c_{n+2}c_{n}-{c_{n+1}}^2\\ & = & (ax^{n+2}+by^{n+2})(ax^n+by^n)-(ax^n+by^n)^2\\ & = & (a^2x^{2n+2}+abx^{n+2}y^n + abx^{n}y^{n+2}+b^2y^{2n+2})-(a^2x^{2n+2}+2abx^{n+1} y^{n+1}+b^2y^{2n+2})\\ & = & ab(x-y)^2(xy)^n \end{aligned} \ So d n d_n is a geometric progression, and so d 3 = 10800 d_3 = 10800 . 10800 = d 3 = c 3 c 5 c 4 2 = 310 c 5 792100 10800 = d_3 = c_3c_5-{c_4}^2 = 310c_5-792100 and so \ a x 5 + b y 5 = c 5 = 10800 + 792100 310 = 2590 ax^5+by^5=c_5=\dfrac{10800+792100}{310}=2590 .

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