It Only Takes A Flower

Algebra Level 2

If a flower whose size gets doubled every day is placed in a lake, it takes 30 days to occupy the entire lake. How long does it take for two such flowers to occupy the entire lake?


The answer is 29.

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45 solutions

Ameya Salankar
May 22, 2014

The lake would be full when each flower occupies half of the lake.

Since the flower doubles each day & covers the lake in 30 30 days, it will cover half the lake in 29 29 days.

\Rightarrow Both the flowers would cover the lake in 29 \boxed{29} days.

Just think it if there is only one flower in the lake, it gets doubled the next day that means 2 flowers, right. one flower takes 30 days that means the next days two flowers must take 30-1 that means 29 days.

Mukul Sharma - 7 years ago

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in response to mukul sharma,please explain it again.i cannot understand it.

shaily bhutada - 6 years, 2 months ago

please i cant understand it

Moemen Adel - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Let's say the flower has size 1 square inch (the number we pick doesn't really matter. Just 1 flower to start: Day 1: area filled 1 sq inch Day 2: area filled 2 sq inches Day 3: area filled 4 sq inches ... Day 30: area filled to the brim. In general it's 2^(day-1) sq inches, or 2^29 sq inches after 30 days

When we start with 2 flowers: Day 1: area filled 2 sq inches Day 2: area filled 4 sq inches Day 3: area filled 8 sq inches ... This time the form is 2^(day) sq inches So in order to reach full capacity (which we know from the 1 flower start we did before) the area needs to reach 2^29 sq inches. Thus we need 29 days.

Basically, if you made a table of the areas each day in the 1 flower vs 2 flower start examples you'd see that they're simply out of phase by 1 day. It imply takes 1 day less for 2 flowers to fill the pond.

How that helped a bit.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 8 months ago

I was hesitant to place my answer because it seemed too easy... Obviously if we consider that on the 29th day, the flower would only have used up half the lake then we can figure that the other flower had the other half of the lake to grow in and would be just as big. 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 entire lake

Jake Maason - 7 years ago

here 2^(x+1)=2^30,therefore x=29

Mahmudul Shihab - 7 years ago

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I did it the same way!

Ishan Maheshwari - 4 years, 9 months ago

Never thought like that..great question....great explanation...wonderful

Saurabh Biswas - 6 years, 12 months ago

very interesting!

vilashni mottian - 6 years, 9 months ago

Ooohh... i thought that we have to multiply it with two because it says two such flowers..

Benedict Chukan - 7 years ago

Exactly. This is how I solved it,

Ritu Roy - 7 years ago

@Ameya Salankar How did you create the box around '29'?

Ritu Roy - 7 years ago

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@Ritu Roy Type this- \boxed{29} inside the LATEX brackets or you can see here .

Ameya Salankar - 7 years ago

i cant understnad

Azaz Shah - 7 years ago

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2 is a double of 1. If 1 flower takes 30 days therefore it follows that 2 flowers takes 30- 1 days(29) to fill the lake

Allan Salazar - 7 years ago

Men the box filled in 30days ryt? D flower double it size everyday therefore in 29th days the size of the flower is half of the lake. Ifthereare two flowers the lake will be covered by 2flowers in 29

Su Ren Yen Ang - 7 years ago

good one .

RAHUL PARMAR - 7 years ago

Guys, I don't understand. What I saw was that since each day a flower's size doubles, 2 such flowers would mean there are 2 such flowers whose size doubles every day. If one, double in 2^x, and the other in 2^x, then in total, it would mean 2^2x = 30. I don't seem to understand the solution for 29 days. In fact, with basic intution, we know that if one object take 30 DAYS, then 2 should take about a half of that.

Please explain if my reasoning has a hole?

Refath Bari - 4 years, 11 months ago

If i put 1 flower it double to 2, if i put 2 flower it must double to 4, then 8, 16.... But ans is 29 instead of 15. How men.

prashant sinha - 4 years, 10 months ago

in 31th day, it can cover 2 lakes

Ord Sobremonte Jr. - 7 years ago
Sajid Hossain
May 28, 2014

L e t , i n i t i a l s i z e o f f l o w e r = x & s i z e o f l a k e = y . F l o w e r t a k e s n d a y s t o o c c u p y t h e e n t i r e l a k e . F o r 1 s t d a y , s i z e o f t h e f l o w e r = x f o r 2 n d d a y , s i z e o f t h e f l o w e r = 2 x f o r 3 r d d a y , s i z e o f t h e f l o w e r = 4 x f o r 4 t h d a y , s i z e o f t h e f l o w e r = 8 x s o , n t h d a y , s i z e o f t h e f l o w e r = 2 n 1 x , w h i c h i s t h e s i z e o f l a k e . S o , y = 2 n 1 × x W e k n o w i t t a k e s 30 d a y s . S o , y = 2 30 1 x = 2 29 x . I f t h e r e a r e t w o f l o w e r s i n s a m e s i z e & t h e y t a k e s m d a y s t o o c c u p y t h e l a k e . ( 2 m 1 x ) + ( 2 m 1 x ) = 2 29 x 2. 2 m 1 x = 2 29 x 2 m = 2 29 m = 29 S o , t h e y t a k e s 29 d a y s t o o c c u p y t h e l a k e . Let,initial\quad size\quad of\quad flower=x\quad \& \quad size\quad of\quad lake=y.\\ Flower\quad takes\quad 'n'\quad days\quad to\quad occupy\quad the\quad entire\quad lake.\\ \\ For\quad 1^{ st }\quad day,\quad size\quad of\quad the\quad flower=x\\ for\quad 2^{ nd }\quad day,\quad size\quad of\quad the\quad flower=2x\\ for\quad 3^{ rd }\quad day,\quad size\quad of\quad the\quad flower=4x\\ for\quad 4^{ th }\quad day,\quad size\quad of\quad the\quad flower=8x\\ so,\quad n^{ th }\quad day,\quad size\quad of\quad the\quad flower={ 2 }^{ n-1 }x,\quad which\quad is\quad the\quad size\quad of\quad lake.\\ So, y={ 2 }^{ n-1 }\times x\\ We\quad know\quad it\quad takes\quad 30\quad days.\quad So,\quad y={ 2 }^{ 30-1 }x={ 2 }^{ 29 }x.\quad \\ If\quad there\quad are\quad two\quad flowers\quad in\quad same\quad size\quad \& \quad they\quad takes\quad 'm'\quad days\quad to\quad occupy\quad the\quad lake.\\ ({ 2 }^{ m-1 }x)+({ 2 }^{ m-1 }x)={ 2 }^{ 29 }x\\ \Rightarrow 2.{ 2 }^{ m-1 }x={ 2 }^{ 29 }x\\ \Rightarrow { 2 }^{ m }={ 2 }^{ 29 }\\ \Rightarrow m=29\\ So,\quad they\quad takes\quad 29\quad days\quad to\quad occupy\quad the\quad lake.\\

The more you learn the more you lose common sense ...... I am also among those people

Muhammad Naeem - 6 years, 10 months ago

Man! I just used intuition...

Raakin Kabir - 4 years, 10 months ago

I also started by trying to construct a series for it. It looked like... n0+(2(ni-1)).......=30, which works, but is a much more cumbersone way to solve this. Overthinking is a curse of the highly educated!

Sarah Farley - 6 years, 2 months ago

I also tried this way...

Nikunj Shah - 5 years, 9 months ago
Mohit Malpani
May 28, 2014

For one flower 1 2 4 8 16.... Till 2^30 Are the flowers on 1 2 3 4 5 days respectively

For two flowers it will be 2 4 8 16 .... Till 2^30 This has just one missing term i.e. 1

Hence answer is 30 -1 days = 29

Great!!I solved it the same way.

Mthokozisi Kabvala - 7 years ago
  • First of all, you start with one single flower, and each day the size of that flower multiplies by a factor of 2.

So, the size of the pond is 1 × 2 30 1 \times 2^{30} times the size of the flower. That equals to 1024 × 1024 × 1024 1024 \times 1024 \times 1024 .

  • Second of all, another flower appeared, and the equation became :

2 × 2 n = 1024 × 1024 × 1024 2 \times 2^{n} = 1024 \times 1024 \times 1024

2 n = 512 × 1024 × 1024 2^{n} = 512 \times 1024 \times 1024

2 n = 2 9 × 2 10 × 2 10 2^{n} = 2^{9} \times 2^{10} \times 2^{10}

2 n = 2 29 2^{n} = 2^{29}

n = 29 n = \boxed{29}

William To
May 30, 2014

It takes 30 days to fill the entire lake, and since it doubles the size everyday, on the 29h day it would fill half of the lake, and 2 of such flowers combine will fill the entire lake.

Shawn Pereira
Sep 10, 2014

Since the flower occupies the whole lake on the 30th day and it doubles in size everyday, the flower was half the size of the lake on the 29th day. So 2 flowers would occupy the whole lake.

Priyansh Agrawal
May 28, 2014

Situation 1) Let x be the initial size of the flower and y be the size of lake. We have got x + 2 x + 4 x + . . . + ( 2 29 ) x = y \boxed {x+ 2x+ 4x+...+ (2^{29}) x = y} With the help of GP summation formula we get y = x ( 2 29 1 ) \boxed{y = x(2^{29} - 1)} .

Situation 2) Now we have got two such flowers. Therefore, 2 [ x + 2 x + 4 x + . . . + ( 2 n ) x ] = y \boxed{2[ x+ 2x+ 4x+ ...+ (2^n)x ] = y } (where n is the number of days to occupy the entire lake in stituation 2) Substituting value of y from situation 1 and solving we get n = 29 \boxed{n=29}

This is a geometric progression, but not really the sum of a geometric series, as the area occupied by the flower on one day is replaced , not added to, by the (doubled) area on the next day. In your notation:

y = 2 30 × x = 2 29 × 2 x y=2^{30}\times x\\ =2^{29}\times 2x

— much simpler!

Joel Toms - 5 years, 10 months ago

Since the size of the flower gets doubled every day, it occupies exactly half of the lake at the end of 29th day.If there are two such flowers,on the 29th day itself,the lake gets completely occupied.

Pavan Konathala
Oct 5, 2016

Given us a flower doubles for every day. for the first day : 2^1 for the second day : 2^2 for the third day : 2^3 and so on... for nth day : 2^n. Given it takes 30 days to occupy the entire lake for one flower then it will take 29 days to occupy the half of lake. Since we have two flowers it will take 29 days to occupy entire lake.

Terrell Bombb
Jul 19, 2016

Let F be the area of such flower. F(2)^x be the expression that the area of F double every x day(s). If F doubles for 30 days then, F(2)^30. If there's two F's then, (2)(F)2^30, but that exceeds the maximum area of the lake covered by one flower in 30 days. Therefore, (2)(F)2^(30-1). Thus, x should equal 29 if there are 2 flowers of the kind

This problem is very simple and can be solved without a pen and paper as other people have previously shown.
But it is always good to test our knowledge on how to show things in a more formal way.
Solving it in paper can be done like this:

2 30 x = y 2^{30}x = y
2 a x + 2 a x = y 2^{a}x + 2^{a}x = y
2 ( 2 a x ) = 2 30 x 2(2^{a}x) = 2^{30}x
2 a x = 2 29 x 2^{a}x = 2^{29}x
a = 29 a = 29



Sim Leek
Jan 21, 2016

If there are now 2 flowers sharing the lake, you just need to divide the lake in half for them.

Since the flowers are always multiplying themselves by 2 every day though, sharing their container only takes away one of their days.

Samuel Jacob
Jan 19, 2016

In the 29th day, one flower occupies half the lake. Therefore if we had two flowers, that additional flower could've filled the other half independently. Therefore 29 days must be the answer.

Carlos Torres
Jan 9, 2016

Supose Flower size is 2 inch.

In 30 days, it will fill x dimension of the lake

Such as: 2^30 = x

Then, 2 flowers have a dimension of 4inch

So: 4^y = x

But its the same that: (2*2)^y = x

And we know, 2^30 = x

So: (2*2)^y = 2^30 And then: 2(2^y) = 2^30

Therefore, y = 29

Doubt: Im not sure why it works with size=2 and any other, on this method, if someone could please help me...

If the flower takes 30 days to cover entire lake of area A and doubles every day, then the area of flower must be A/2^30. Now area of two flowers will be 2A/2^30 , which is equal to A/2^29 . So it takes 29 days to cover entire lake.

Zyberg Nee
Jan 3, 2016

While I love the intuition behind the solution of this problem, the way I solved this was:

First, I noticed that the size of flower on the 3 0 t h 30^{th} day is 2 29 x 2^{29}x , when x x is the size it all started with.

It's easy to notice, that we could count the size of any flower with such formula, when y y is days:

2 y 1 x 2^{y-1}x

Now, we can make a basic equation:

2 29 x = 2 y 1 x + 2 y 1 x 2^{29}x=2^{y-1}x + 2^{y-1}x

Which simplifies to:

2 29 x = 2 y x 2^{29}x=2^{y}x

x = 29 x = 29

That's the solution for pure math lovers ;)

Pedro Vitor
Dec 28, 2015

1 flower = x

1 flower in the lake = x • 2^numbers of days

n = number of days

1 flower in the lake: x • 2^n

Lake = x • 2 • 2 • 2 • 2....

Lake = x • 20^30

2 flowers:

x • 2^n + x • 2^n = 2 • 2^n

2 • 2^n = 2^n+1

2 flowers = x • 2^n+1

Lake = x • 2^30

Lake = 2 flowers

x • 2^30 = x • 2^n+1

2^30 = 2^n+1

n+1 = 30

n = 29

Kyle Manley
Dec 13, 2015

Well, the flower doubles every day, so if you are starting with 2 flowers, think of the original 30 but instead of starting on Day 1, you are starting on Day 2, so one less, 29

Caroline Lui
Nov 30, 2015

It doubles everyday, so starting with two just subtracts one day

Sadasiva Panicker
Nov 30, 2015

In 29 days, one fill half the lake. Similarly the other flower also fill half the lake in these days. So the lake in fullin 29 days.

Sobhan Bihan
Nov 9, 2015

Let the volume of the lake be V and the volume of the flower after day 1 of its birth be p (necessary assumption: V > 0 => p > 0). => V = (2^29)p = (2^n)p + (2^n)p = [2^(n+1)]p where n is the no. of days it takes for the two flowers to fill the lake decremented by 1 (n is real). => 2^29 = 2^(n+1) => n = 28 => It takes 29 days for the two flowers to fill the lake. [Q.E.D.]

Achille 'Gilles'
Oct 25, 2015

If the size double every day and cover the lake in 30 days. On day 29 this flower will cover half the lake so it will take another to cover the the other half.

Sam Maltia
Oct 13, 2015

For the first flower to fill up the lake, you would take the flower's size F times 2^30 because it doubles itself 30 times. Then, you divide that by F x2 to find how much you would multiply 2 flowers by to fill the lake, giving you 2^(30-1) or 2^29. Therefore, it would take the two flowers 29 days to fill the lake.

Namit Jain
Sep 20, 2015

Used a different method. Say the flower's size is x=2 on day 1. On day 30, the size of the flower will be 2^30 which is equal to 1073741824 which covers the entire lake so therfore the size of the lake is also 1073741824. For one flower to cover half the lake, it has to be half the size which is 536870912 and the second half will also be the same. It'll take 29 days for the flower to grow to that number. 2^29 is 536870912.

Pulkit Gupta
Sep 20, 2015

Lets suppose the first day the flower was kept in the lake it occupied 1 unit of area. Then on the second day, it shall occupy 2 units of area, 4 units on third and so on. That is on a nth day, the total area occupied by the flower is (2^ n -1) ----(1)

Since the flower takes total of 30 days to occupy the lake, area of the flower on the 30th day is the area of lake. By (1) it is 2 ^ 29 units.

Now the total area occupied by two flowers on any given day n is 2 * ( area occupied by one flower on any given day n) = 2* 2^ n-1 OR 2^n units.

The day the lake gets full is when the total area occupied by both the flowers is equal to the area of the lake. Since the lake area is 2^29, hence 2 ^ n = 2^29 OR n = 29 days.

Abdul Basith S
Sep 10, 2015

Let size of one flower= x At the end of 30 days, size of flower= x* 2^30 Size of two flowers= 2x Required time=( x*2^30)/2x

Jason Short
Aug 20, 2015

Question is imprecise because it says "how long" not "how many days". The correct answer should be "29 days" but "696 hours" would also be correct.

Jeega Pradeev
Aug 7, 2015

Since it takes 30 days to cover the entire lake , lake is half filled at 29th day.so, both flowers takes 29days to cover the entire lake..

Ali Qureshi
Jun 23, 2015

may be geometric progression can help understand those who do not understand

Sarah Farley
Mar 26, 2015

Took longer than I care to admit to simply think backwards and see how much of the lake would be occupied on the 29th day...

Felicia Kreye
Jan 21, 2015

I did way too much work instead of thinking it out logically. I had 2(2^x)=1073741824 log (base 2) 536870912 = x ln 536870912 / ln 2 29 Like I said, thinking logically would have saved a lot of time.

Kerwin Manasis
Aug 23, 2014

29 is the answer because.. 1 flower takes 30days to occuppy the entire lake, meaning in the 29th day the lake is half occuppied by a 1 flower,, so if you add another 1 flower in the lake it takes the other half of the lake in the 29th day...

Muhammad Uzair
Aug 6, 2014

Covering lake while getting doubled in size for 30 days is:

2^30.

For two flowers, width parameter will be halfed,

2^30/2

2^29

So, both floweres will be doubled for 29days to fill the pound

We can say that 2^30 = 2(2^n), since there is two flowers We then factor out a 2, making it 2(2^29) = 2(2^n) therefore n=29

Efren Pineda
Aug 3, 2014

The problem can be solved by Geometric Progression wherein the common ratio r = 2, n will be defined as the number of days, every number in the sequence represents the factor the area is increase for every day. Let A = area covered by a single flower in day 1 Since in GP, the nth term can be solve using a n = a 1 × r n 1 a_n=a_1\times r^{n-1} For a single flower,

day 1, a 1 = A × 2 0 = A a_1=A\times 2^0=A

day 2, a 2 = A × 2 1 = 2 A a_2=A\times 2^1=2A means the area is doubled,

day 3, a 3 = A × 2 2 = 4 A a_3=A\times 2^2=4A double of day 2,

day 4, a 4 = A × 2 3 = 8 A a_4=A\times 2^3=8A double of day 3,

until the 30th day, a 30 = A × 2 29 a_{30}=A\times 2^{29} , this also represents the area of the lake to be filled up by the 2 flowers.

Now for 2 flowers,

day 1, a 1 = 2 A × 2 0 = 2 A a_1=2A\times 2^0=2A

day 2, a 2 = 2 A × 2 1 = 4 A a_2=2A\times 2^1=4A

day 3, a 3 = 2 A × 2 2 = 8 A a_3=2A\times 2^2=8A

until such day (the unknown) where a n = A × 2 29 a_n=A\times 2^{29} , substitute this for the work done of 2 flowers,

a n = 2 A × 2 n 1 a_n=2A\times 2^{n-1}

A × 2 29 = 2 A × 2 n 1 A\times 2^{29}=2A\times 2^{n-1} the parameter area A can be cancelled,

2 29 = 2 × 2 n 1 2^{29}=2\times 2^{n-1}

2 29 2 = 2 n 1 \frac{2^{29}}{2}=2^{n-1}

2 28 = 2 n 1 2^{28}=2^{n-1} and since we have the same base on both sides, we can simplify it... to solve for n

28 = n 1 28=n-1

n = 29 n=29 days for two flowers to occupy the entire lake.

Shaza Rae
Jun 2, 2014

Long method:Using the formulas of a geometric progression Tn=ar^(n-1)

With 1 flower in the pond, the progression is as the following:

1,2,4,8,16

r=2

Therefore, in 30 days, Tn = ar^(n-1) T30 = 12^(29) = 536 870 912 flowers in the pond

With 2 flowers, the progression is as the following:

2,4,8,16,32

r = 2

In "n" number of days, the pond will be full (536 870 912 flowers) .Therefore:

Tn = ar^(n-1) = 536 870 912

Tn = 2(2)^(n-1) = 536 870 912

Tn = 2(2)^(n-1) = 2^29

Tn = 2^(n-1) = 2^28

n - 1 = 28

n = 29 days.

Dang Anh Tu
Jun 1, 2014

I have read all your solutions, and here is mine: If we got 2 flowers, after 30 days, they will occupy 2 lakes, so the previous day, they occupied the whole lake The answer is 29 days!

Hello,

as for a flower to occupy a single lake is 30 days ,where n = 30, it is 2^n

numbers of flowers in 30 days = 2^30,

therefore,number of days to fill the lake for( 2 flowers) = 2^30 / 2 = 2^29 as 2^n,

2^n = 2^29

n = 29 days...

thanks...

Aronas Nuresi
May 30, 2014

2 2 n 1 = 2 30 1 2\cdot 2^{n-1}=2^{30-1}

2 n 1 + 1 = 2 29 2^{n-1+1}=2^{29}

2 n = 2 29 2^n=2^{29}

n = 29 \therefore n=29

Arun Payyeri
May 29, 2014

The lake would be full in 30 days with one flower....so by 29th day it will occupy half the space..so if there are 2 flowers then by 29th day the lake will be fully occupied..

Amogh Agrawal
May 29, 2014

Let x be the initial size of the flower. Let the size of lake be y. The follows the sequence x, 2x, 4x..., 2^30x. Now, 2^30x = y. With 2 flowers let the time taken be n days. 2^n * x + 2^n * x = y. Which gives 2^(n+1) * x = y. But we already know that 2^30 = y. n=29. Hence answer is 29 days.

Didn't get it

Jainendra Sheth - 7 years ago
Deep Sarkar
May 29, 2014

29th day 1 flower will cover the half lake... therefore remainig lake would also be covered within same time by another flower...

Krishna Garg
May 27, 2014

Since the flowers get doubled every day,lake will be half covered on 29th day and full covered on 30th day,so both flowers will get covered the lake in 29 days.

K.K..GARG India

One flower takes 30 days to grow.

Therefore, initial size of the flower =2^-30

Initial size of two flowers =2^-30 *2 = 2^-29

Since it doubles everyday, you require 29 days

Ahmed Nour
May 23, 2014

in the first case one flower will get double to be 2 flowers on one day. the second case start from the day one so it will cover the lake in ( 30day - 1day =29day)

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