A surprising answer

Geometry Level 5

In the diagram, the circle centered at B B and the circle centered at O O are tangent inside square A B C D ABCD . If cos O B C = a b \cos{\angle{OBC}}=\frac{a}{b} for coprime positive integers a a and b b , then what is a + b a+b ?


The answer is 9.

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5 solutions

Aditya Raut
Sep 15, 2014

Let radius of circle with center B B be R R and circle with center O O be r r .

In O B C \triangle OBC ,

O B 2 = O C 2 + B C 2 OB^2=OC^2+BC^2 ......... Pythagoras' theorem

( R + r ) 2 Property of touching circles = ( R r ) 2 OC=CD-OD=R-r + R 2 R 2 + 2 R r + r 2 = R 2 2 R r + r 2 + R 2 R 2 = 4 R r r R = 1 4 R + r R = 1 + 4 4 Adding 1 on both sides O B B C = 5 4 cos O B C = 4 5 \therefore \underbrace{(R+r)^2}_{\text{Property of touching circles}} = \underbrace{(R-r)^2}_\text{OC=CD-OD=R-r} + R^2\\ \therefore R^2+2Rr+r^2= R^2-2Rr+r^2 +R^2\\ \therefore R^2=4Rr \\ \therefore \dfrac{r}{R}=\dfrac{1}{4} \\ \implies \dfrac{R+r}{R}=\dfrac{1+4}{4} \quad \quad\text{Adding 1 on both sides} \\ \therefore \dfrac{OB}{BC}=\dfrac{5}{4} \\ \therefore \cos \angle OBC = \dfrac{4}{5}

Hence answer is 4 + 5 = 9 4+5=\boxed{9}

i just guessed....

Panshul Rastogi - 6 years, 9 months ago

I just did it in my head

Ryan Treleaven - 5 years, 11 months ago

Just an extra step for those who are wondering how to get from 3 to 4:

1 + r R = 1 4 + 1 1+\frac{r}{R}=\frac{1}{4}+1

R + r r = 1 + 4 4 \implies\frac{R+r}{r}=\frac{1+4}{4}

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 9 months ago

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I also not understanding bro...

Mohan Kumar - 6 years, 8 months ago

the cos is only intimidating lol

math man - 6 years, 9 months ago

exactly what i did

akash deep - 6 years, 8 months ago

I did the same way

Rohit Rushil - 6 years, 8 months ago

a and b are prime? what does it mean?

John Paul Larracas - 6 years, 8 months ago

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"a and b are relatively prime" means they dont have a common factor. thus, a/b is in simplest form. remember, 4/5 is also equal to 8/10 giving the problem another issue :)

Julius-sama De Venecia - 6 years, 8 months ago

Good one !

Mohamed Eltawil - 6 years, 8 months ago

My solution was identical. I even denoted the radii with the same letters : ) :)

Michael Fuller - 6 years ago

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Me too! Same to same equations and variable.

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago

Nice Solution

Abhishek Chopra - 6 years ago

I too used the same method. Is it so difficult !!

Niranjan Khanderia - 5 years, 4 months ago

This is WAAAAY too easy for a 400-point question. I mean, it's just simple pythagorean theorem and equating...

Manuel Kahayon - 5 years, 4 months ago

Solved it the same way! I can't believe this is a level 5 problem...

Ariel Gershon - 5 years, 3 months ago

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I looked at it and thought level 2 and was very surprised.

Sal Gard - 5 years, 2 months ago

Same way...no pens are needed ;)

展豪 張 - 5 years, 2 months ago

I also do thissssss Coool bro

VIneEt PaHurKar - 4 years, 12 months ago

how to solve it by trigonometry

vishwesh agrawal - 6 years, 8 months ago

it is given that a and b are prime, hence a cannot be 4

Vishnu KS - 6 years, 5 months ago

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No, it says that a and b are relatively prime, which implies that the largest integer that divides a and b is 1. The fact that two integers are relatively prime does not imply that they must both be prime.

Aran Pasupathy - 6 years ago
Sanjeet Raria
Sep 16, 2014

I liked Adiya's way, but my way is informal, lets take the radius of big circle be 1 and that of small circle be R . In right triangle OBC, O B = 1 + R , O C = 1 R OB=1+R, OC=1-R Using Pythagoras, R = 1 4 R=\frac{1}{4} Now cos O B C = 1 1 + 1 / 4 = 4 5 \cos\angle OBC=\frac{1}{1+1/4}=\frac{4}{5} Ans 4 + 5 = 9 4+5=\boxed9

Cool..I could think of neither this nor that :(.

Sanjana Nedunchezian - 6 years, 8 months ago

Next time, use \cos code in LaTeX which makes appear c o s cos as cos \cos .

Also, give the sign of angle before O B C OBC , which is obtained by code \angle that is, \angle .

As a moderator I can edit this in your solution, but I want YOU to do that... @Sanjeet Raria

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Hey thanks buddy....

Sanjeet Raria - 6 years, 8 months ago

I used the same method. Is. It so difficult !!

Niranjan Khanderia - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Aditya Raut's and this method are same.

Niranjan Khanderia - 5 years, 4 months ago

This is simple yet completely logical. Thank you so much!

Aparna Krishnan - 6 years, 8 months ago

Why have they given the relatively prime part of the question?

Aparna Krishnan - 6 years, 8 months ago

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because 4/5 = 8/10 = 12/15 which will give the problem another issue without the "relatively prime" part :)

Julius-sama De Venecia - 6 years, 8 months ago

Hey, it' s "Using The Pythagorean Theoram" and not "Using Pythagoras". LOL!

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 9 months ago
Jao Garcia
Sep 20, 2014

Hi! Remember that you only need 4 lines of DO to equal 1 line BC

Just the pythagorean! BC = 4, OC = 3 , and BO = 5! now just put the requirements 4+5 = 9 :P

I may be loosing something, but where is said that the radius of the smaller circle is equal to 1? If it is not, the only thing I think we can state is that a + b = 9 times the radius of this smaller circle...

Clayton Silva - 6 years, 8 months ago
Lu Chee Ket
Sep 30, 2015

What is surprising?

Antonio Fanari
Sep 20, 2014

Let the large and small circle be respectively:

C i r c l e ( B , R ) ; C i r c l e ( O , r ) ; Circle(B, R);\;Circle(O, r);

Let θ = O B C , \;\theta = \angle OBC,\; and let T T be the tangent point between circles; we have:

B O = B T + T O = R + r ; |BO| = |BT| + |TO| = R + r;

B C = R ; |BC| = R;

C O = C D O D = R r ; |CO| = |CD| - |OD| = R - r;

by Pytagoras’ theorem:

B C 2 + C O 2 = B O 2 ; |BC|^{ 2 } + |CO|^{ 2 } = |BO|^{ 2 };

R 2 + ( R r ) 2 = ( R + r ) 2 ; R^{2} + (R-r)^{2} = (R+r)^{2};

simplyfing:

R ( R 4 r ) = 0 ; R = 4 r ; R(R-4r) = 0;\; R = 4r;

c o s θ = B C B O = R R + r = 4 r 4 r + r = 4 r 5 r = 4 5 = a b ; cos\theta = \frac{|BC|}{|BO|} = \frac{R}{R + r} = \frac{4r}{4r + r} = \frac{4r}{5r} = \frac 4 5 = \frac a b;

a + b = 4 + 5 = 9 ; a + b = 4 + 5 = \boxed 9;

θ = a r c c o s ( 4 5 ) = 36.86989765 d e g \theta = arccos(\frac{4}{5}) = 36.86989765\;deg

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