ABC problem?

Geometry Level 4

In A B C \triangle ABC , we have A B × A C = B C 2 A B 2 AB \times AC=BC^2-AB^2 . If A B C = θ \angle ABC=\theta radians, it follows that B C A = p π q θ r \angle BCA=\dfrac{p\pi-q\theta}{r} radians, where p p , q q and r r are positive integers. What is the minimum possible value of p + q + r p+q+r ?


The answer is 5.

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Mark Hennings
Jul 30, 2017

The Cosine Rule a 2 = b 2 + c 2 2 b c cos A c 2 = a 2 + b 2 2 a b cos C a^2 \; = \; b^2 + c^2 - 2bc\cos A \hspace{2cm} c^2 \; = \; a^2 + b^2 -2ab\cos C together with the given condition a 2 c 2 = b c a^2 - c^2 \,=\, bc tells us that b = c ( 1 + 2 cos A ) cos C = b + c 2 a b \; = \; c(1 + 2\cos A) \hspace{2cm} \cos C \; = \; \frac{b+c}{2a} Putting these two statements together, and using the Sine Rule, we have cos C = c ( 1 + cos A ) a = sin C ( 1 + cos A ) sin A sin A cos C cos A sin C = sin C sin ( A C ) = sin C \begin{aligned} \cos C & = \; \frac{c(1 + \cos A)}{a} \; = \; \frac{\sin C(1 + \cos A)}{\sin A} \\ \sin A \cos C - \cos A \sin C & = \; \sin C \\ \sin(A-C) & = \; \sin C \end{aligned} Since A , C A,C are angles in a triangle, we deduce that A C = C A-C=C , so that A = 2 C A=2C , and hence C = 1 3 ( π B ) = 1 3 ( π θ ) C = \tfrac13(\pi-B) =\tfrac13(\pi-\theta) . Thus the answer is 1 + 1 + 3 = 5 1+1+3=\boxed{5} .

Please correct me if I am wrong somewhere in the below mentioned my thought procedure.

We can deduce that bc = a^2 - c^2 ............................(i)

=> bc=(a-c)(a+c)

Case 1: a-c = b and a+c = c

We can observe that a+c =c implies a=0, but as the triangle exists, this is false.

Case 2: a-c = c and a+c = b

This implies a = 2c and (2c) + c =b OR a = 2c and b = 3c.

Also, When we apply cosine formula for angle C and using the equation (i) , we get, Cos(C) = (b+c)/2a = (3c + c)/4c = 1

This implies that C needs to even multiple of Pi. Hence, we get that this triangle can never be formed because C has to be 0, 2*Pi and so on,

none of which can satisfy as an angle of a Triangle.

P.S : This conclusion that I have come to feels kinda weird to me

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Just because ( a + c ) ( a c ) = b c (a+c)(a-c) = bc , we cannot deduce that a + c a+c must be one of b b or c c .

Mark Hennings - 2 years, 5 months ago
Noel Lo
Jul 30, 2017

Let B C A = x \angle BCA=x . As shown below, we consider a circle of radius A B AB centred at B B . Suppose this circle intersects B C BC at two points E E and F F :

Note that A B × A C = B C 2 A B 2 AB \times AC=BC^2-AB^2 can be rewritten as:

A B × A C = ( B C A B ) ( B C + A B ) AB \times AC=(BC-AB)(BC+AB)

Considering that A B = B E AB=BE as both represent the radius of the circle,

A B × A C = ( B C B E ) ( B C + B E ) AB \times AC=(BC-BE)(BC+BE)

A B × A C = C E × C F AB \times AC=CE \times CF

Now employing the properties of circles,

C D × A C = C E × C F CD \times AC=CE \times CF as the two lines from point C C intersect the circle at A A , D D , E E and F F . It then follows that A B = C D AB=CD . Consdering that A B = B D AB=BD , this means that B D = C D BD=CD and hence C B D = B C D = x \angle CBD=\angle BCD=x .

Then A D B = C B D + B C D = x + x = ( 1 + 1 ) x = 2 x \angle ADB=\angle CBD+\angle BCD=x+x=(1+1)x=2x .

Next A B = B D AB=BD as both represent the radius of the circle so B A D = A D B = 2 x \angle BAD=\angle ADB=2x .

Finally,

B A C + B C A + A B C = π \angle BAC+\angle BCA+\angle ABC=\pi

2 x + x + θ = π 2x+x+\theta=\pi

( 2 + 1 ) x = π θ (2+1)x=\pi-\theta

3 x = π θ 3x=\pi-\theta

x = π θ 3 x=\frac{\pi-\theta}{3}

Therefore, p = 1 p=1 , q = 1 q=1 and r = 3 r=3 which means p + q + r = 5 p+q+r=\boxed{5} as required.

Nice problem, but why did you delete your other problem amazing angle ?

Alan Enrique Ontiveros Salazar - 3 years, 10 months ago

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