Given 4 positive integers a , b , c and d such that a 5 = b 4 , c 3 = d 2 and c − a = 1 9 , what is the value of d − b ?
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This is an AIME problem - please give credit, creator!!
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II agree with Michael; this problem is almost exactly like the problem 2 on the 2013 WOOT Practice AIME 1.
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Because c^3 = d^2 \Rightarrow c^3 is Perfect square \Rightarrow c is a perfect square analogously, a is a perfect square. c - a = 19 \Rightarrow c >= a \Rightarrow \exists k, l \in N such that a = k^2 and c = (k+l)^2 c - a = (k+l)^2 - k^2 = 2kl + l^2 = 19 \Rightarrow l is odd and l^2 <= 19 \Rightarrow l = 1 or l =3 if l = 3 then 6k + 9 = 19 \Rightarrow 6k = 10 (!) if l =1 then 2k + 1 = 19 \Rightarrow k = 9 \Rightarrow a = 81 and c = 100 \Rightarrow b = 243 and d = 1000 so d - b = 1000 - 243 = 757
Suppose a=k^4, b=k^5, c=m^2, d=m^3 for some integer k and m. Since a,b,c,d are postive, then k,m are positive too. Since c-a=19, we have m^2-k^4=19 Factor out, (m+k^2)(m-k^2)=19. Since 19 is prime, its factor are only 1,-1,19,-19. Since m+k^2>0 and m+k^2>m-k^2, we have m+k^2=19 and m-k^2=1. Solving equation, m=10 and k^2=9. k is positive so k=3.
Hence, d-b=m^3-k^5=10^3-3^5=1000-243=757
a 5 = b 4 , c 3 = d 2
Thus, there are exist integers s and t such that a = t 4 , b = t 5 , c = s 2 , d = s 3 . So, s 2 − t 4 = 1 9 .
( s − t 2 ) ( s + t 2 ) = 1 9
1 9 is prime number and s + t 2 > s − t 2
so, s + t 2 = 1 9 and s − t 2 = 1 .
Then, s = 1 0 , t = 3 and so d = s 3 = 1 0 0 0 , b = t 5 = 2 4 3 and d − b = 7 5 7
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Since a , b , c , d are integers, so
a 5 = b 4
means that a is a perfect fourth power, which also means that it is a perfect square.
Similarly,
c 3 = d 2
means that c is a perfect square.
So now c − a = 19
This implies that c and a are perfect squares with a difference of 19.
Suppose their square roots are consecutive. Then,
If c = k 2 , then a = ( k − 1 ) 2
So c − a = 2 k − 1
Implying that k=10.
So c=10 and a=9.
Substituting these values, we get
b=243
d=1000
So, d − b =757.
Now we show the uniqueness of the solution.
If we substitute values like square of 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 for c then we find that a will not be a perfect square.
So, c ≥ 1 0 0
So we also see that If c = 1 0 0 , then the minimum value of c will become 121.
But the nearest perfect square to 121 is 100,
But 1 2 1 − 1 0 0 =21.
So, c < 1 2 1 , which proves that c= 10 and a= 9 is a unique solution.
Since a , b , c and d are integers and 4 and 5, as well as 3 and 2, are relatively prime, hence the given equations imply that a = x 4 , b = x 5 for some positive x , and that c = y 2 and d = y 3 for some positive integer y . So c − a = y 2 − x 4 = ( y − x 2 ) ( y + x 2 ) = 1 9 . Since 19 is prime, [and the second term is positive] y − x 2 = 1 , y + x 2 = 1 9 . Solving gives y = 1 0 , x = 3 , and plugging in give d − b = 7 5 7 .
c and a must be perfect square numbers, so we get c=100, a=81. b=243, d=1000 d-b=757
From a 5 = b 4 and c 3 = d 2 we conclude that a = m 4 and c = n 2 for some positive integer m , n . Then 1 9 = c − a = n 2 − m 4 = ( n + m 2 ) ( n − m 2 ) since n + m 2 ≥ 2 , we get n + m 2 = 1 9 and n − m 2 = 1 , yield n = 1 0 and m 2 = 9 . So, we get a = 8 1 , c = 1 0 0 therefore b = 2 4 3 , d = 1 0 0 0 and d − b = 7 5 7
Since a 5 = b 4 so a must be in the form of k 4 for some k
Since c 3 = d 2 so c must be in the form of l 2 for some l
Looks at k if k=2 ===> a = 32 , c=50 contradiction
if k = 3 ===> a = 81 , c=100 = 10^2 wow yeah !!
so a = 81 c=100 d=1000 b=243 therefore d-b = 7 5 7
We mmst have a and c being square numbers. The only case is a=81 and c= 100
a = 32 -> c = 51 not 50? And how can we know that this is the only answer?
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yeah its 51 , to check its only answer you have to plug in k and l to c-a then factorized it (my solution is the first one that came to my mind. first i didnt think to check only answer through)
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To easely solutioning we know if a^5 = b^4 ---> a = p^4 and b = q^5. Then, c^3 = d^2 --> c = r^2 and d = s^3. We know if c - a = 19 and 19 is prime number (19.1) ---> c - a = 19 --> r^2 - p^4 = 19.1 ----> (r + p^2)(r - p^2) = 19.1, so with substitution method we've r = 10 and p =3. So, c = 100 and a = 81. Thus, now we get d = 1000 and b = 243. Finally, d - b = 1000 - 243 = 757. Answer : 757
Lets start by rearranging the equations so as to find positive integer solutions for a and c :
a 4 5 = b and c 2 3 = d
According to these rearranged equations, b will have integer values if and only if a is a fourth power number, and d will be an integer if and only if c is a square number. Correspondingly, every fourth power number is in fact a square number, so it is safe to say that a is a square number as well. Now the question states that the difference between c and a is 19. Now if we examine square numbers, we can see that if we have a square number n 2 , it can be expressed as a sum of all odd numbers up to 2 n − 1 . The odd number we are aiming to reach through this is 19, and accordingly:
1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 9 + 1 1 + 1 3 + 1 5 + 1 7 + 1 9 = 1 0 0
Now we can see that to get 19, we need to subtract 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 9 + 1 1 + 1 3 + 1 5 + 1 7 = 8 1 from 1 0 0 . As a result, we find c to be 1 0 0 and a to be 8 1 . Now to find d and b , we just use the rearranged equations we started with:
b = 8 1 4 5 = 2 4 3 and d = 1 0 0 2 3 = 1 0 0 0
Therefore, d − b = 1 0 0 0 − 2 4 3 = 7 5 7
The first two equations will be satisfied when a,b,c,d are one's..or if a,b,c and d can all themselves be expressed as powers of a number..in this case the equations are of the form x^4^5=x^5^4 ; y^2^3=y^3^2; where a=x^4; c=y^2...... On trying different values of powers of 4(i.e a) we see that 3^4 satisfies all the conditions...thus d=1000, b=243
We start by looking at c 3 = d 2 . Many ordered pairs of positive integers (c,d) satisfy this relationship, for example (4.8), (9,27) and so on. But we can appreciate that such a relationship can only exist if the chosen c is a perfect square.
Now, it is given that c − a = 1 9 . So we can say for sure that c > 2 0
Also, a 5 = b 4 , which again suggests that a must also be a perfect square.
So we look for a c > 2 0 such that c − a = 1 9 and a is a perfect square. The ordered pair (c,a) is definitely ( 1 0 0 , 8 1 )
Thus, d = 1 0 0 0 and b = 2 4 3
Which gives us d − b = 7 5 7
If a 5 = b 4 then a = x 4 and b = x 5 . Similarily, c = y 2 and d = y 3 . So we have 1 9 = c − a = y 2 − x 4 = ( y − x 2 ) ( y + x 2 ) . Since wll terms are positive integers, we have y − x 2 < y + x 2 and { y − x 2 , y + x 2 } = { 1 , 1 9 } . Hence y − x 2 = 1 and y + x 2 = 1 9 . Solving, we get y = 1 0 , x = 3 . So d − b = y 3 − x 5 = 1 0 0 0 − 2 4 3 = 7 5 7
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First we note that a must be a fourth-power number, and that c must be a square number. So let a = m 4 and c = n 2 . The equation c − a = 1 9 = − ( m 2 + n ) ( m 2 − n ) means that, since 19 is a prime number, m 2 + n = 1 9 , m 2 − n = − 1 Which means m = 3 , n = 1 0 , which then means a = 8 1 , c = 1 0 0 , b = 2 4 3 , d = 1 0 0 0