Aditya's challenges in Mechanics 2

At time zero, the small block m 1 m_1 is given a slight push so as to slide down the semicircular region of radius r r . The big block m 2 m_2 is perfectly smooth and there is no friction with the ground. What is the maximum velocity obtained by the small block during this process?

Details and Assumptions

  • g = 10 m / s 2 g=\SI[per-mode=symbol]{10}{\meter\per\second\squared} , m 1 = 1 kg m_1=\SI{1}{\kilo\gram} , m 2 = 9 kg m_2=\SI{9}{\kilo\gram} , r = 10 m r=\SI{10}{\meter} .
  • The big block is not attached to the wall.
  • For geometric purposes, consider the small block as a point particle.

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The answer is 13.4164.

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2 solutions

Mark Hennings
Nov 25, 2016

Since the only external forces acting on the two blocks are gravity and the normal reaction with the ground, the horizontal component of momentum is conserved. SInce the system is initially at rest, the horizontal component of the centre of mass of the system remains constant. As the small block moves down the surface, the large block will move away from the wall. When the small block reaches the lip of the semicircle, at the side nearest the wall, the system will be instantaneously at rest, and the same motion will repeat, but in the opposite direction, with the smaller block coming to rest at the lip of the semicircle, and the larger block coming to rest just touching the wall, as it was when it started. Thus the maximum speed of the small block on the return trip is the same as the maximum speed of the small block on the outward journey.

Suppose that x x is the horizontal distance of the centre of the semicircle on the big block from the wall, and let θ \theta be the angle that the small block makes with the downward vertical. Thus 9 x + ( x + 10 sin θ ) 9x + (x + 10\sin\theta) remains constant, and so x ˙ = cos θ θ ˙ \dot{x} = -\cos\theta\dot\theta Conservation of energy tells us that 9 2 x ˙ 2 + 1 2 [ ( x ˙ + 10 cos θ θ ˙ ) 2 + 100 sin 2 θ θ ˙ 2 ] = 100 cos θ \tfrac92\dot{x}^2 + \tfrac12\big[(\dot{x} + 10\cos\theta\dot{\theta})^2 + 100\sin^2\theta \dot\theta^2\big] \; = \; 100\cos\theta and hence, using the relationship between x ˙ \dot{x} and θ ˙ \dot\theta , we deduce that θ ˙ 2 = 20 cos θ 9 + sin 2 θ \dot\theta^2 \; = \; \frac{20\cos\theta}{9 + \sin^2\theta} If V V is the speed of the small block, then V 2 = ( x ˙ + 10 cos θ θ ˙ ) 2 + 100 sin 2 θ θ ˙ 2 = 20 ( 81 + 19 sin 2 θ ) cos θ 9 + sin 2 θ V^2 \; = \; (\dot{x} + 10\cos\theta\dot\theta)^2 + 100\sin^2\theta\dot\theta^2 \; = \;\frac{20(81 + 19\sin^2\theta)\cos\theta}{9 + \sin^2\theta} Thus V V is maximized when θ = 0 \theta=0 , and so the maximum value of V V is 6 5 = 13.4164 6\sqrt{5} = \boxed{13.4164} .

Hi, i have a doubt, when the block reaches the bottom of the wedge for the first time it's velocity 10*(2)^1/2=14.14 isnt it?

Arijit ghosh Dastidar - 4 years, 2 months ago

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You are not taking into account the fact that both blocks are moving horizontally. Also, the smaller block is not falling freely under gravity.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 2 months ago

But when the small one reaches bottom for the first time...only the small block will be in motion as ,the wall will balance the horizontal component of normal reaction on the wedge by the small block, so the wedge should remain stationary. hence using conservation of energy , (m1)gr=(m1)(v^2)/2.......solving v comes out to be 14.14

Arijit ghosh Dastidar - 4 years, 2 months ago

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No. The horizontal coordinate of the centre of mass will remain constant, but the two masses will have horizontal velocities.

While the small block is descending, the large block experiences the force of gravity (vertically down), the normal reaction with the ground (vertically up) and the normal reaction from the small block (pointing radially outward). Thus the overall force on the large block is horizontally to the left. When the small block reaches the bottom, the large block will have a leftward speed. It is only as the small particle rises up the other side of the slope that the large block starts to receive a right-pointing force that will slow it down and stop it.

The large block will first become stationary again when the small block reaches the top of the curve on the other side.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 2 months ago

but how can the large block move left? there is an immovable rigid wall right up there

Arijit ghosh Dastidar - 4 years, 2 months ago

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Hmm. Someone has redrawn the picture, and put the wall on the wrong side of the large block! @Calvin Lin to fix this, please.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 2 months ago

the large block will have a rightward velocity one the small block passes the bottom most point

Arijit ghosh Dastidar - 4 years, 2 months ago

@CalvinLin can i get points for it? i answered 14.14

Arijit ghosh Dastidar - 4 years, 2 months ago
Rahul Singh
Apr 15, 2017

we can solve this problem with a very short method..... the max velocity of small block will be when it is at the bottom of the bigger block.... let this max velocity be v and the velocity of m2 at that moment be u...then using conservation of momentum.. we can write m1v = m2u also using energy conservation - m1(v^2)/2 + m2(u^2)/2 = m1gr hence solving both the equations .. we get (v^2) = 2gr(m2)/((m1)+(m2)) hence we get v = sqrt(180)

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