Algebra rationality problem

Algebra Level 3

Let a a and b b be rational where a≠b. If either a + b \sqrt a + \sqrt b or a b \sqrt a - \sqrt b is rational or both are, what can be said about the numbers a \sqrt a and b \sqrt b ?

a 1 / 2 a^{1/2} is irrational b 1 / 2 b^{1/2} is rational They are both irrational They are both rational a 1 / 2 a^{1/2} is rational b 1 / 2 b^{1/2} is irrational Inconclusive

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1 solution

Nick Kent
Aug 9, 2019

Since a b = ( a + b ) ( a b ) a-b=\left( \sqrt { a } +\sqrt { b } \right) \left( \sqrt { a } -\sqrt { b } \right) , if either a + b \sqrt { a } +\sqrt { b } or a b \sqrt { a } -\sqrt { b } is rational, then the other is too (because a b a-b is rational). That means their sum and difference are also rational: ( a + b ) + ( a b ) = 2 a \left( \sqrt { a } +\sqrt { b } \right) +\left( \sqrt { a } -\sqrt { b } \right) =2\sqrt { a } , ( a + b ) ( a b ) = 2 b \left( \sqrt { a } +\sqrt { b } \right) -\left( \sqrt { a } -\sqrt { b } \right) =2\sqrt { b } . Therefore, both a \sqrt { a } and b \sqrt { b } are rational

The answer should be "inconclusive". If a b a \neq b then your argument works fine. But the wording of the problem allows a = b a=b , which trivially allows the square roots to be irrational.

Chris Lewis - 1 year, 10 months ago

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