2 equations, 3 variables!

Algebra Level 4

{ a 7 b + 8 c = 4 8 a + 4 b c = 7 \large { \begin{cases}a-7b+8c=4 \\ 8a+4b-c=7 \end{cases} }

Let a , b a,b and c c be real numbers satisfying the system of equations above. Find the value of 60 ( a 2 b 2 + c 2 ) 60(a^2-b^2+c^2) .


The answer is 60.

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4 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
May 19, 2016

{ a 7 b + 8 c = 4 . . . ( 1 ) 8 a + 4 b c = 7 . . . ( 2 ) \begin{cases} a - 7b + 8c = 4 & ... (1) \\ 8a + 4b - c = 7 & ...(2) \end{cases}

( 1 ) + 8 ( 2 ) : 65 a + 25 b = 60 b = 12 13 a 5 ( 2 ) : 8 a + 4 ( 2.4 2.6 a ) c = 7 c = 13 12 a 5 \begin{aligned} (1)+8(2): \quad \quad \quad \ 65a + 25b & = 60 \\ \implies b & = \frac{12-13a}{5} \\ (2): \quad 8a + 4(2.4-2.6a) - c & = 7 \\ \implies c & = \frac{13-12a}{5} \end{aligned}

Now, we have:

60 ( a 2 b 2 + c 2 ) = 60 ( a 2 ( 12 13 a 5 ) 2 + ( 13 12 a 5 ) 2 ) = 60 25 ( 25 a 2 ( 12 13 a ) 2 + ( 13 12 a ) 2 ) = 60 25 ( 25 a 2 ( 144 312 a + 169 a 2 ) + ( 169 312 a + 144 a 2 ) ) = 60 25 ( 25 a 2 + 25 25 a 2 ) = 60 \begin{aligned} 60(a^2-b^2+c^2) & = 60\left(a^2 - \left(\frac{12-13a}{5}\right)^2 + \left(\frac{13-12a}{5}\right)^2\right) \\ & = \frac{60}{25}\left(25a^2 - \left(12-13a\right)^2 + \left(13-12a\right)^2\right) \\ & = \frac{60}{25}\left(25a^2 - \left(144-312a+169a^2 \right) + \left(169-312a +144a^2 \right)\right) \\ & = \frac{60}{25}\left(25a^2 + 25 - 25a^2 \right) \\ & = \boxed{60} \end{aligned}

Nice solution, as usual.

Just one correction: the first operation you made is (1) + 8(2), not (1) - 8(2).

Paulo Filho - 5 years ago

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Thanks. I have changed it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years ago

your solution is good but it will look easier without the decimals.Try some new methods...+1

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago

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Thanks. I just changed it to fractions.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years ago

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That is better!!!

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago

Nice solution, as usual.

Just one correction: the first operation you made is (1) + 8(2), not (1) - 8(2).

Paulo Filho - 5 years ago

Sir in the 2nd line from bottom there is an error.

Kaushik Chandra - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks. I have changed it. I think @Alan Joel 's solution is better.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 7 months ago
Alan Joel
May 22, 2016

a 7 b + 8 c = 4 a-7b+8c=4 implies a + 8 c = 4 + 7 b a+8c=4+7b

Squaring on both sides,

a 2 + 64 c 2 + 16 a c = 16 + 49 b 2 + 56 b a^{2}+64c^{2}+16ac=16+49b^{2}+56b ---------- ( 1 ) (1)

8 a + 4 b c = 7 8a+4b-c=7 implies 8 a c = 7 4 b 8a-c=7-4b

Squaring on both sides,

64 a 2 + c 2 16 a c = 49 + 16 b 2 56 b 64a^{2}+c^{2}-16ac=49+16b^{2}-56b ---------- ( 2 ) (2)

( 1 ) (1) + + ( 2 ) (2) yields 65 a 2 + 65 c 2 = 65 b 2 + 65 65a^{2}+65c^{2}=65b^{2}+65

Dividing by 65 and rearranging, we get a 2 b 2 + c 2 = 1 a^{2}-b^{2}+c^{2}=1

60 ( a 2 b 2 + c 2 ) = 60 60(a^{2}-b^{2}+c^{2}) =60

very good solution but use latex..+1

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago

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Thanks ! I will rewrite my solution using latex soon . . .

Alan Joel - 5 years ago

Did the exact same

Aditya Kumar - 5 years ago
Vineet PaHurKar
May 23, 2016

don't know the explanation and I was hoping someone could explain why what I did works. I recall someone once saying in problems like these u can set one variable to 0 and then solve. I set a=0 and I solved for b and c and got final answer as 60. Thanks!

why posting the same thing as ashish???

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago

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I m very lazy.....

VIneEt PaHurKar - 5 years ago

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did you have the same confussion as ashish?

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago
Ashish Sacheti
May 20, 2016

I don't know the explanation and I was hoping someone could explain why what I did works. I recall someone once saying in problems like these u can set one variable to 0 and then solve. I set a=0 and I solved for b and c and got final answer as 60. Thanks!

Why only zero!!!

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago

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Excuse me? Idk what you mean by that

Ashish Sacheti - 5 years ago

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why only a=0?why not other numbers??

Ayush G Rai - 5 years ago

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