An algebra problem by Nguyễn Hữu Khánh

Algebra Level 4

What is the result of x + y x+y ?


The answer is 3.

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4 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Nov 28, 2014

{ y 2 + x + x y 6 y + 1 = 0 y 3 x 8 y 2 + x 2 y + x = 0 { ( y 2 + x ) + ( x y + 1 ) 6 y = 0 ( y 2 + x ) ( x y + 1 ) 9 y 2 = 0 \begin {cases} y^2 + x + xy - 6y +1 = 0\\ y^3x - 8y^2 + x^2y + x = 0 \end {cases} \quad \Rightarrow \begin {cases} (y^2 + x) + (xy +1) - 6y = 0 \\ (y^2 + x)( xy + 1) - 9y^2 = 0 \end {cases}

{ ( y 2 + x ) + ( x y + 1 ) = 6 y ( y 2 + x ) ( x y + 1 ) = 9 y 2 { u + v = 6 y u v = 9 y 2 { v = 6 y u u ( 6 y u ) = 9 y 2 \Rightarrow \begin {cases} (y^2 + x) + (xy +1) = 6y \\ (y^2 + x)( xy + 1) = 9y^2 \end {cases} \quad \Rightarrow \begin {cases} u + v = 6y \\ uv = 9y^2 \end {cases} \quad \Rightarrow \begin {cases} v = 6y - u\\ u(6y-u) = 9y^2 \end {cases}

u 2 6 y u + 9 y 2 = ( u 3 y ) 2 = 0 u = 3 y y 2 + x = 3 y \Rightarrow u^2 - 6yu + 9y^2 = (u - 3y)^2 = 0\quad \Rightarrow u = 3y\quad \Rightarrow y^2 + x = 3y

x = 3 y y 2 \Rightarrow x = 3y-y^2 ; and substituting in y 2 + x + x y + 1 = 6 y y^2 + x + xy +1 = 6y , we have:

y 2 + 3 y y 2 + ( 3 y y 2 ) y + 1 6 y = 3 y + 3 y 2 y 3 + 1 = 0 y^2 + 3y-y^2 + (3y-y^2)y +1 - 6y = - 3y + 3y^2 - y^3 + 1 = 0

y 3 3 y 2 + 3 y 1 = ( y 1 ) 3 = 0 y = 1 x = 3 ( 1 ) 1 2 = 2 \Rightarrow y^3 - 3y^2 + 3y - 1 = (y-1)^3 = 0 \quad \Rightarrow y = 1 \quad \Rightarrow x = 3(1) - 1^2 = 2

x + y = 2 + 1 = 3 \Rightarrow x + y = 2 + 1 = \boxed {3}

Exactly, I too did the same, this is really a nice solution to this question. I think this question was made for this observation only!!

Raushan Sharma - 5 years, 4 months ago
Yatiraj Tantri
Sep 24, 2014

From the equation y 2 + x + x y 6 y + 1 = 0 y^{2} + x + xy -6y + 1 = 0 x = y 2 + 6 y 1 ) / ( 1 + y ) x = -y^{2}+6y-1)/(1+y)

Replacing the above value of 'x' in equation y 3 x 8 y 2 + x 2 y + x = 0 y^{3}x-8y^{2}+x^{2}y+x=0 and simplifying, we get an equation completely in y: y 6 + 6 y 5 15 y 4 + 20 y 3 15 y 2 + 6 y 1 = 0 -y^{6}+6y^{5}-15y^{4}+20y^{3}-15y^{2}+6y-1=0

Just by a look at the coefficients (coefficients and constant add up to 0), y =1 is one of the solutions. Replace this value in the first equation to get y = 2. And hence the answer.. 3..

Milly Choochoo
Sep 22, 2014

Lazy man's solution:

Equate the two equations and get a 0 on the right side:

y 2 + x + x y 6 y + 1 = y 3 x 8 y 2 + x 2 y + x y^2 + x + xy - 6y + 1 = y^3x-8y^2+x^2y+x

y 2 + x + x y 6 y + 1 y 3 x + 8 y 2 x 2 y x = 0 y^2 + x + xy - 6y + 1 - y^3x+8y^2-x^2y-x = 0

If you just start randomly plugging in values for y y (because doing so with x x might lead you to need to solve an ugly cubic function), you'll arrive at that of plugging in 1 1 for y y .

1 + x + x 6 + 1 x + 8 x 2 x = 0 1+x+x-6+1-x+8-x^2-x=0

x 2 = 4 x = ± 2 x^2 = 4 \rightarrow x=\pm2

So the answer ( x + y x+y ) must be either 2 + 1 = 3 2+1=3 or 1 2 = 1 1-2=-1 . Try both of them and see that the first of them works.

exactly... :)

Shardendu Shukla - 6 years, 8 months ago
Steven Zheng
Sep 21, 2014

Let eq1 be y 2 + x + x y 6 y + 1 = 0 {y}^{2}+x+xy-6y+1=0 and eq2 be y 3 x 8 y 2 x 2 y + x = 0 {y}^{3}x-8{y}^{2}-{x}^{2}y+x=0 .

We begin by multiplying eq 1 by x y xy and subtract eq 2. With a bit of factoring and rearrangement, we get ( x 2 ) ( x 4 ) y 2 = x ( 1 y ) . (x-2)(x-4){y}^{2}=x(1-y).

Hence we look at the possibilities when x = 0 , 2 , 4 x=0,2,4 y = 0 , 1 y=0,1

Here we find the integer solutions (0,0), (2,1), (4,1). By substituting these solutions into the original system of equations, only (2,1) works. Therefore, the answer is 2 + 1 = 3. 2+1 =3.

But why should they be integers?

Bogdan Simeonov - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Because if they weren't, he wouldn't be able to do the factoring that he did.

Milly Choochoo - 6 years, 8 months ago

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