An algebra problem by Rajen Kapur

Algebra Level 3

f ( x ) f(x) is a cubic polynomial such that f ( a ) = f ( b ) = f ( c ) = 0 f(a)=f(b)=f(c)=0 and f ( p ) 0 f(p)\neq 0 . Select the correct choice of the expression, c y c l i c a , b , c ( a + p b p ) \prod_{cyclic \ \ a,b, c}(\frac{a+p}{b-p})

f ( p ) f ( p ) \frac{f(-p)}{f(p)} f ( p ) f ( p ) \frac{-f(p)}{f(-p)} f ( p ) f ( p ) \frac{-f(-p)}{f(p)} f ( p ) f ( p ) \frac{f(p)}{f(-p)}

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1 solution

Rajen Kapur
Jun 12, 2017

The given expression ( a + p b p ) ( b + p c p ) ( c + p a p ) = ( p a ) ( p b ) ( p c ) ( p a ) ( p b ) ( p c ) = f ( p ) f ( p ) . (\frac{a+p}{b-p})(\frac{b+p}{c-p})(\frac{c+p}{a-p})=\frac{(-p-a)(-p-b)(-p-c)}{(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)}=\frac{f(-p)}{f(p)}. bold text

Perhaps we should specify that a , b , c a, b, c are the roots of the polynomial?

IE, this would fail for f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) 2 ( x 2 ) f(x) = (x-1)^2 (x-2) where we set a = 1 , b = 2 , c = 2 a = 1, b = 2, c = 2 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 12 months ago

Reply to Calvin Lin: Sir, It does not fail for any chosen a, b, and c, as long as p is different which has been stated explicitly in the statement of the question.

Rajen Kapur - 3 years, 12 months ago

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Please take f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) 2 ( x 2 ) f(x) = (x-1) ^2 ( x - 2) , a = 1 , b = 2 , c = 2 a = 1, b = 2, c = 2 and p = 3 p = 3 . Plug that into your equation. What do you get?

We have

( a + p b p ) = 1 + 3 2 3 × 2 + 3 2 3 × 2 + 3 1 3 = 50 \prod \left( \frac{ a+p } { b -p} \right) = \frac{ 1 + 3 } { 2 - 3 } \times \frac{ 2 + 3 } { 2 - 3 } \times \frac { 2 + 3 } { 1-3 } = -50

while f ( 3 ) = 4 , f ( 3 ) = 80 f(3) = 4, f(-3) = -80 , which gives f ( 3 ) f ( 3 ) = 80 4 = 20 \frac{ f( -3) } { f(3) } = \frac{ -80 } { 4} = - 20 .

Do you see where your solution breaks down? This is why the multi-set of roots is important. Simply saying that f ( a ) = f ( b ) = f ( c ) = 0 f(a) = f(b) = f(c) = 0 only gives us { a , b , c } \{ a, b, c \} \subset "roots of f f ".

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 12 months ago

Reply to Calvin Lin: For the chosen a, b, and c f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) ( x 2 ) 2 f(x)=(x-1)(x-2)^2 . Please correct your expression f ( x ) f(x) , then everything will turn out fine.

Rajen Kapur - 3 years, 12 months ago

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You are missing my point. In the problem, you stated that " f ( x ) f(x) is a cubic polynomial such that f ( a ) = f ( b ) = f ( c ) = 0 f(a) = f(b) = f(c) = 0 ". The expressions that I stated satisfy the written conditions that you gave.

Your written condition (a,b,c are roots of f(x) ) are not restrictive enough to result in the conditions that you are thinking of in your head (IE that a, b, c are exactly the multi set of roots of f(x) ). That is where your solution breaks down. You made this additional assumption, which isn't a corollary of the written conditions.

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 12 months ago

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