An algebra problem by Rajsuryan Singh

Algebra Level 4

If a, b, c and d are distinct integers in arithmetic progression such that d = a 2 + b 2 + c 2 d=a^{2}+b^{2}+c^{2} Then find a + b + c + d a+b+c+d


The answer is 2.

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It happens again. I solve the problem but it shows that I did not.

Anyway, the solution is 2 by observation and then I calculated it as follows.

Since d = a 2 + b 2 + c 2 d=a^2+b^2+c^2 , this implies that d d is the fourth term a 4 a_4 .

Let the first, second and third terms be a a , b b and c c , then b a = c b = x b-a=c-b=x , where x is the difference between two successive terms.

Then a = b x a=b-x , c = b + x c=b+x and d = b + 2 x d=b+2x .

Therefore,

d = b + 2 x = ( b x ) 2 + b 2 + ( b + x ) 2 d=b+2x=(b-x)^2+b^2+(b+x)^2

b + 2 x = b 2 2 b x + x 2 + b 2 + b 2 + 2 b x + x 2 \Rightarrow b+2x = b^2-2bx+x^2+b^2+b^2+2bx+x^2

b + 2 x = 3 b 2 + 2 x 2 \quad \quad b+2x = 3b^2+2x^2

2 x 2 2 x + ( 3 b 2 b ) = 0 \quad \quad 2x^2-2x+(3b^2-b)=0

x = 2 ± 4 8 ( 3 b 2 b ) 4 \Rightarrow x=\dfrac{2 \pm \sqrt{4-8(3b^2-b)} }{4}

x = 2 ± 2 1 + 2 b 24 b 2 ) 4 \quad \quad x=\dfrac{2 \pm 2\sqrt{1+2b-24b^2)} }{4}

Note that x = 2 n x = 2n , when n n is a positive integer.

For x = 2 n x=2n , implies that 1 + 2 b 24 b 2 \sqrt{1+2b-24b^2} is an integer b = 0 \Rightarrow b=0 and x = 1 x = 1 .

Therefore,

a = 1 b = 0 c = 1 d = 2 a=-1\quad b = 0\quad c=1\quad d=2

a + b + c + d = 1 + 0 + 1 + 2 = 2 \Rightarrow a+b+c+d=-1+0+1+2=\boxed{2}

Sorry, it should be 1 + 2 b 6 b 2 \sqrt{1+2b-6b^2} is an integer.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 9 months ago

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If x=2n where n is an integer, shouldn't x be even?

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Sorry, it should be 1 + 2 b 6 b 2 \sqrt{1+2b-6b^2} is an odd integer for x x to be an integer, because:

x = 1 ± 1 + 2 b 6 b 2 2 x = \dfrac {1 \pm \sqrt{1+2b-6b^2}}{2}

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 9 months ago
John Aries Sarza
Sep 2, 2014

Sorry guys, i don't have any appropriate solution from this problem. But maybe it can help this:

1st, Take a note that the series is in arithmetic progression so that means, if a a is the first term then the second term must be a + d a+d , 3rd is a + 2 d ) a+2d) and and so on...

2nd, From the equation d = a 2 + b 2 + c 2 d={ a }^{ 2 }+{ b }^{ 2 }+{ c }^{ 2 } , the series must be a smaller integer because if the integer is larger, then it not might suitable to solve the equation.

3rd, By solving this, i assume that the middle b b is zero. And it works. Possible solution is 2 = ( 1 ) 2 + 0 2 + 1 2 2={ (-1) }^{ 2 }+{ 0 }^{ 2 }+{ 1 }^{ 2 }

Answer : 1 + 0 + 1 + 2 = 2 -1+0+1+2=\boxed{2}

SOMETIMES , we can solve the problem through our analysis by doing Assumption .

Note: Please avoid reusing notation. a , b , c , d a, b, c, d were already defined in the question, do not use a a and d d to denote your arithmetic sequence again, as it can be confusing.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 9 months ago
Nivedit Jain
Jan 31, 2017

try it by hit and error method i considered the AP -1,0,+1,+2 and it satisfied the condition. so sum is 2

An Lê
Jan 14, 2017

a = x e a = x - e

b = x b = x

c = x + e c = x + e

d = x + 2 e d = x + 2e

We have equation to find the relationship between x and e:

x + 2 e = ( x e ) 2 + x 2 + ( x + e ) 2 x+2e = (x-e)^2 + x^2 + (x+e)^2

x + 2 e = 3 x 2 + 2 e 2 x + 2e = 3x^2 + 2e^2

But since x, e are integers :

x < = 3 x 2 ( " = " < = > x = 0 ) x <= 3x^2 ("=" <=> x = 0)

2 e < = 2 e 2 ( " = " < = > ( e = 0 ) o r ( e = 1 ) ) 2e<= 2e^2 ("=" <=> (e = 0) or (e = 1))

but e must = 1 to make integers distinct.

So we only have (x,e) = (0,1) sum = 4x + 2e = 2.

Dipak Bhais
Oct 16, 2014

first solve give equation d=a2 +b2+c2 a2+b2+c2-d=0 we know that 1 a2+1 b2+1 c2+(-1) d=0 we found coefficent of this equation is a=1,b=1,c=1,d=-1 we put this value in finding equation 1+1+1-1 =2 this is the answer

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