An interesting geometry problem I found - 2

Geometry Level 1

Triangle A B C ABC has sides of length 5 5 , x x , and 2 x 1 2x-1 . If x x is of the form a b \dfrac ab , where a a and b b are positive coprime integers, find a + b a+b .


The answer is 11.

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Krishna Karthik
Nov 2, 2020

Note that this isn't an original problem and there are probably many like it; it was given to me as part of pre-IB advanced maths homework. We are getting taught the cosine rule now, but I solved this problem using vectors before I was taught the cosine rule.

I think this should show why learning vector algebra is very important; if you forget long formulas; you can always use a fundamental concept such as vectors.


Let the vectors that are on the lines A B AB be a \vec{a} , A C AC be b \vec{b} , and B C BC be c \vec{c} .

We can deduce that c = a b \displaystyle \vec{c} = \vec{a} - \vec{b} .

Furthermore, we know that the magnitude of vector c \vec{c} is 2 x 1 2x - 1 .

b = x , 0 \vec{b} = \braket{x,0} , and the components of vector a \vec{a} can be found using trigonometry:

a = 5 2 , 5 3 2 \displaystyle \vec{a} = \braket{\frac{5}{2}, \frac{5 \sqrt{3}}{2}}

Hence,

c = 5 2 x , 5 3 2 \displaystyle \vec{c} = \braket{\frac{5}{2} - x,\frac{5 \sqrt{3}}{2}}

Equating the magnitudes:

2 x 1 = ( 5 2 x ) 2 + ( 5 3 2 ) 2 \displaystyle 2x-1 = \sqrt{\left(\frac{5}{2} - x \right)^2 + \left(\frac{5 \sqrt{3}}{2} \right)^2}

This reduces to the quadratic equation:

3 x 2 + x 24 = 0 3x^2 + x -24 = 0

For which a useful value of x = 8 3 \boxed{\displaystyle x = \frac{8}{3}}

What you've done there is derive the cosine rule using vectors :-). Using your notation, if you don't substitute values in at the beginning, what you have is a = A B cos B A C , A B sin B A C b = A C , 0 c = A B cos B A C A C , A B sin B A C \begin{aligned} \vec{a}&=\left \langle AB\cos \angle BAC,AB\sin \angle BAC \right \rangle \\ \vec{b}&=\left \langle AC,0 \right \rangle \\ \vec{c}&=\left \langle AB\cos \angle BAC - AC,AB\sin \angle BAC \right \rangle \end{aligned}

Equating the magnitudes,

B C 2 = ( A B cos B A C A C ) 2 + A B sin B A C B C 2 = A B 2 + A C 2 2 A B A C cos B A C \begin{aligned} BC^2 &=(AB\cos \angle BAC - AC)^2+AB\sin \angle BAC \\ BC^2 &=AB^2 + AC^2 - 2AB\cdot AC \cos \angle BAC \end{aligned}

Still, good derivation - if you ever forget the cosine rule in an exam you can still answer the questions!

Chris Lewis - 7 months, 1 week ago

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Wow! I never thought that I proved the cosine rule like that; I was just focusing on the problem. Lmao. Thanks mate.

Krishna Karthik - 7 months, 1 week ago

According to your assumption, c \vec c is not a b \vec a-\vec b , but b a \vec b-\vec a .

A Former Brilliant Member - 7 months, 1 week ago

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@Foolish Learner c \vec{c} has to be a b \vec{a} - \vec{b} because of the half of the parallelogram formed by that triangle's two adjacent sides, A B AB and B C BC . Because of orienting A A at the origin and A C AC lying on the x x- axis, it has to be a - b. I've written that in the solution.

Krishna Karthik - 7 months, 1 week ago

Bruh I just realised the problem statement got edited. Thanks Chew Seong-Cheong

Krishna Karthik - 7 months, 1 week ago

Nice! Contrived problems are just so... satisfying. :)

David Stiff - 2 months, 2 weeks ago

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