An Open Challenge

Consider the above figure. There is a hollow space in the block A A which is allowed to move only in the vertical direction. The inclination of the wedge B B is θ \theta , as shown.

What should be the minimum force F F (in N N ) to be applied on the wedge in the direction as shown, so that when a man standing in the hallow region throws a ball with initial velocity u = 50 ms 1 u=50\text{ ms}^{-1} vertically, he catches it 8 seconds sooner than if he threw the ball with the same initial velocity standing on the ground.

Details and Assumptions:

  • The mass of the block A A including the mass of the person is m = 196 kg m=196\text{ kg} .
  • The mass of the wedge B B is M = 20 kg M=20\text{ kg} .
  • Acceleration due to gravity is g = 10 ms 2 g=10\text{ ms}^{-2} .
  • The hollow region and the dimensions of the wedge are sufficiently large.
  • There is no friction anywhere in the system.
  • The mass of the ball is to be neglected compared to the mass of the wedge.


The answer is 5600.

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2 solutions

Sparsh Sarode
Oct 16, 2016

Time taken to catch the ball on ground :

t 1 = 2 u g = ( 2 ) ( 50 ) 10 = 10 s t_1=\dfrac{2u}{g}=\dfrac{(2)(50)}{10}=10s

Time taken to catch the ball on the block

t 2 = t 1 8 = 2 s t_2=t_1-8=2s

Let the acceleration of the block be a a (wrt the person)

t 2 = 2 u a = 2 t_2=\dfrac{2u}{a}=2

a = 50 = 5 g a=50=5g

Therefore ,effective acceleration felt by the person is 5 g 5g


Generalisation for effective acceleration (wrt person) to be 'n' times g

Let the block A A move upwards with ( n 1 ) g (n-1)g acceleration

Let the normal force between the wedge and the block be N N


FBD of the block A

N cos θ m g = m ( n 1 ) g N \cos \theta-mg=m(n-1)g

N cos θ = m ( n 1 + 1 ) g = m ( n g ) N\cos \theta =m(n-1+1)g=m(ng) - - - - - - - 1

(ng) \rightarrow shows that acceleration felt by the person is n times g


FBD of the wedge B

Let the acceleration of wedge be A

F N sin θ = M A F-N\sin \theta =MA - - - - - - - 2


Condition for blocks to be in contact

For the blocks to be in contact, their normal acceleration should be same

A sin θ = ( n 1 ) g cos θ A\sin \theta = (n-1)g\cos \theta - - - - - - - 3


Equation 2 can be written as

N sin θ = F M A N\sin \theta=F-MA - - - - - - - 4

Divide eq 4 by 1

tan θ = F M A m n g \tan \theta=\dfrac{F-MA}{mng}

F = m n g tan θ + M A F=mng\tan \theta +MA

A = ( n 1 ) g cot θ A=(n-1)g\cot \theta (from eq 3 )

F = m n g tan θ + M ( n 1 ) g cot θ F=mng\tan \theta+M(n-1)g\cot \theta - - - - - - - 5


For minimum F

d F d θ = m n g sec 2 θ M ( n 1 ) g c o s e c 2 θ = 0 \dfrac{dF}{d \theta} = mng\sec ^2 \theta-M(n-1)g {cosec} ^2 \theta=0

m n g cos 2 θ = M ( n 1 ) g sin 2 θ \dfrac{mng}{\cos ^2 \theta}=\dfrac{M(n-1)g}{\sin ^2 \theta}

sin 2 θ cos 2 θ = M ( n 1 ) m ( n ) \dfrac{\sin ^2 \theta}{\cos ^2 \theta}=\dfrac{M(n-1)}{m(n)}

tan θ = M ( n 1 ) m ( n ) cot θ = m ( n ) M ( n 1 ) \tan \theta=\sqrt{ \dfrac{M(n-1)}{m(n)}} \Rightarrow \cot \theta=\sqrt{ \dfrac{m(n)}{M(n-1)}}

Substituting tan θ , cot θ \tan \theta, \cot \theta values in eq 5

F = 2 g M m n ( n 1 ) F=2g \sqrt{Mmn(n-1)}


Now n = 5 , m = 196 k g , M = 20 k g n=5, m=196kg, M=20kg

F = 2 ( 10 ) ( 20 ) ( 5 ) ( 196 ) ( 4 ) = 5600 N F=2(10)\sqrt{(20)(5)(196)(4)}=5600N

F = 5600 N \displaystyle \color{#3D99F6}{ \boxed{ \therefore F=5600N}}

Too good.. Nice generalisation... :)

M D - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Thank you...

Sparsh Sarode - 4 years, 8 months ago

how many % people solved it sparsh ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 7 months ago

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4%..........

Sparsh Sarode - 4 years, 7 months ago

My solution is exactly the same. Just i used AM GM Inequality for minimising rather than differentiating! :)

Prakhar Bindal - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Oh!! Thts good.. :)

Sparsh Sarode - 4 years, 7 months ago

AM GM inequality is not applicable for all trigonometric functions but we can apply it to solve under the condition 0-90 for cot and tan since they r positive.. Ii was another nice approach actually

Sparsh Sarode - 4 years, 7 months ago

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kk i was just giving additional info. !

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 7 months ago

Shouldn't we be considering the impulse received by the man and and the weight in reaction to throwing up the ball too??

Oops! I forgot to mention to neglect it.. There will be some impulse but the mass of ball is negligible when compared the block.. Thanks for reminding me..

Sparsh Sarode - 4 years, 8 months ago

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