An Unconventional NT Problem

Logic Level 3

Find the least possible positive integer n n such that when the leftmost digit is removed, the remaining number is equal to n 29 \dfrac{n}{29} .


The answer is 725.

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6 solutions

Michael Diao
May 1, 2014

Just a note: this is quite similar to the 2006 AIME I Problem #3. Remember to credit your sources!

Let's take a simple approach.

Let our number be n n , where n n is a positive integer of the form a b c \overline{abc} ( a , b a, b and c c do not necessarily need to be distinct) and that satisfies the above property. Thus, b c = a b c 29 \overline{bc}=\frac{\overline{abc}}{29} .

We know that the only possible other factor of n n must end in either 0 0 or in 5 5 , because those are the only numbers that, when multiplied by 29 29 , produce a product with the same last digit. Thus, our search is limited to cases where the other factor is a multiple of 5 5 . This makes our search a whole lot easier.

Now, we start to search for the number we seek. A quick listing of the numbers can give us 145 , 290 , 435 , 580 , 725 145, 290, 435, 580, 725 -- STOP. That's it. We're done. 25 × 29 = 725 . 25 \times 29 = \boxed{725}.

That's how I did it, any more efficient ways?

If you take the larger number as 29 x 29x and the smaller as x x , then you can find the first digit easily. Subtracting, you get the value for 28 x 28x = = a 0000.. a0000.. , where a a is the first digit. Since the number a 0000... a0000... is divisible by 28 28 , it can be observed that 28 × 25 28\times25 is equal to 700 700 , and thus, 7 7 is the only value for a a , which makes a 0000... a0000... divisible by 28 28 . Since it is multiplied by 25 25 , the two digits coming after the first digit in the larger number must be 25 25 . Thus, the first few numbers which satisfy the question are 725 , 7250 , 72500 , 725000... 725, 7250, 72500, 725000... . Thus, the general form of this number is:

725 × 1 0 n 725\times10^{n} , where n W n\in\mathbb{W}

Nanayaranaraknas Vahdam - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Very nice, and this generalizes easily when 29 is replaced by something else. This also shows that 30 and 32 will not work, but 31 and 33 will :)

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 1 month ago

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Yes, because 30 30 or 32 32 would become odd and not a multiple of 5 5 and thus, no multiple would be of the form a 0000... a0000...

Nanayaranaraknas Vahdam - 7 years, 1 month ago

There is a much more efficient way, esp if you want to generate all such numbers.

More generally, what values other than 29 can we replace with? How about 30? 31? 32? (likewise, there is a quick way to determine the answer)

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 1 month ago

Dude, I'd never seen that. :O It might have just well been 1 5239529 \frac{1}{5239529} . Sorry if that affected you in any way. :P

Finn Hulse - 7 years, 1 month ago
Daniel Liu
May 1, 2014

Instead of figuring out n n , let's figure out n 29 \dfrac{n}{29} instead. Let's call n 29 = x \dfrac{n}{29}=x . Clearly, 29 x 29x is at least a 3-digit number. Let's assume that is true. Thus, 29 x 29x can be represented by 100 a + x 100a+x , where a a is a digit. Since 29 x = 100 a + x 29x=100a+x , we have 28 x = 100 a 28x=100a , or 7 x = 25 a 7x=25a . Therefore, x = 25 x=25 and a = 7 a=7 .

Finally, n = 29 x = 725 n=29x=\boxed{725} and we are done.


Wow, that solution was a lot less rigorous and a lot more wordy than I intended it to be!

Arghyanil Dey
May 1, 2014

Let consider the number that satisfies the condition is a two digit number like ab . Then 10 a + b = 29 b 10a+b=29b so b = 5 a 14 b=\frac{5a}{14} It means the least possible value of a is 14, as b is an integer but it is not possible because a,b,c lies in the interval [0,9] and they are all integer. So the number is not a two digit number. Let consider the number is a three digit number like abc . Then 100 a + 10 b + c = 29 ( 10 b + c ) 100a+10b+c=29(10b+c) so 10 b + c = 25 c 7 10b+c=\frac{25c}{7} Then the least possible value of c is 7. So 10 b + c = 25 10b+c=25 . It means that b=2,c=5. Then the number is 725

Where did 100a go?

Adarsh Kumar - 7 years, 1 month ago
Yash Mittal
May 1, 2014

let the leftmost digit be x.

then acc. to ques. , no. would be x * (power of 10) + n/29

i.e. n = x * (power of 10) + n/29

which implies, n - n/29 = x * (power of 10)

n*28/29 = x * (power of 10)

RHS is integral , therefore n must be a multiple of 29 say 29k.

so, 28*k = x * (power of 10)

4 7 k = x * (power of 10) , there is no no. which when multiplied by 7 fetches a power of 10,
so x is essentially a multiple of 7 ,infact it is 7 as x is a digit.

now, 4*k = power of 10

clearly min. k = 25 , which gives n= 29 * 25 = 725

Sanket Samant
May 3, 2014

lets say number is 100x+10y+z

so equality will become

10y+z = 100x+10y+z / 29

28(10y+z) = 100x

4*7(10y+z) = 100 x

x has to be 7

4*(10y+z) = 100 = 4 * 25

and y = 2 and z = 5

so number 725

How do you know it's a three digit number?

Finn Hulse - 7 years ago
Noel Lo
Jun 15, 2015

Let the first digit be a a . If n n has (b+1) digits, removing a a would reduce its value by a × 1 0 b a \times 10^b

So we have n a × 1 0 b = n 29 n - a \times 10^b = \frac{n}{29}

28 n 29 = a × 1 0 b \frac{28n}{29} = a \times 10^b

28 n = 29 a × 1 0 b 28n = 29 a \times 10^b

Since 28 and 29 are coprime, a × 1 0 b a \times 10^b must be divisible by 28 28 or 2 2 × 7 2^2 \times 7 .

1 0 b 10^b is no way divisible by 7 so b b must be divisible by 7. Since b b is single digit, b = 7 b=7

Now 28 n = 29 × 7 × 1 0 b 28n = 29 \times 7 \times 10^b

4 n = 29 × 1 0 b 4n = 29 \times 10^b

For 29 × 1 0 b 29 \times 10^b to be a multiple of 4, b b must be at least 2

4 n = 2900 4n = 2900

n = 725 n = \boxed{725}

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