Another cubic, with interesting roots

Algebra Level 4

Let f ( x ) = x 3 + a x 2 + b x + a , f(x) = x^3 + ax^2 + bx + a, for some nonzero integers a a and b b . Let r 1 , r 2 , r_1, r_2, and r 3 r_3 be the roots of f ( x ) f(x) . It is given that

( r 1 + r 2 ) ( r 2 + r 3 ) ( r 3 + r 1 ) = 1. (r_1 + r_2)(r_2 + r_3)(r_3 + r_1) = -1.

Find the value of b b .


The answer is 2.0.

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Steven Yuan
Jan 29, 2015

It can be easily shown that

r 1 r 2 r 3 + ( r 1 + r 2 ) ( r 2 + r 3 ) ( r 3 + r 1 ) = ( r 1 + r 2 + r 3 ) ( r 1 r 2 + r 2 r 3 + r 3 r 1 ) . r_1r_2r_3 + (r_1 + r_2)(r_2 + r_3)(r_3 + r_1) = (r_1 + r_2 + r_3)(r_1r_2 + r_2r_3 + r_3r_1).

(See this note .)

Since a = r 1 + r 2 + r 3 -a = r_1 + r_2 + r_3 , b = r 1 r 2 + r 2 r 3 + r 3 r 1 b = r_1r_2 + r_2r_3 + r_3r_1 , and a = r 1 r 2 r 3 -a = r_1r_2r_3 , we have

a 1 = a b 1 = a b + a 1 = a ( b 1 ) . \begin{aligned} -a - 1 &= -ab \\ -1 &= -ab + a \\ 1 &= a(b - 1). \end{aligned}

Since a a and b b are integers, we have either a = 1 a = 1 and b 1 = 1 b - 1 = 1 , or a = 1 a = -1 and b 1 = 1. b - 1 = -1. The second case gives b = 0 , b = 0, which is not allowed. Thus, b = 1 + 1 = 2 , b = 1 + 1 = \boxed{2},

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Ankush Tiwari
Feb 19, 2015

We have r 1 + r 2 + r 3 = a r_1 + r_2 + r_3 = -a

( r 1 + r 2 ) ( r 2 + r 3 ) ( r 3 + r 1 ) = ( a r 3 ) ( a r 1 ) ( a r 2 ) \Rightarrow (r_1 + r_2)(r_2 + r_3)(r_3 + r_1) = (-a - r_3)(-a - r_1)(-a - r_2)

= f ( a ) = a b + a = 1 a ( b 1 ) = 1 = f(-a) = -ab + a = -1 \Rightarrow a(b-1) = 1

Hence we have either a = 1 a=1 and b = 2 b=2 or a = 1 a=-1 and b = 0 b=0 . But since b b is nonzero integer we have b = 2 b=2

Mohamed Laghlal
Feb 1, 2015

( r 1 × r 2 + r 1 × r 3 + r 2 × r 3 + r 2 2 ) × ( r 3 + r 1 ) = 1 (r_1\times r_2 + r_1\times r_3 + r_2\times r_3 + r_2^{2})\times (r_3 + r1) = -1 or r 1 × r 2 + r 1 × r 3 + r 2 × r 3 = b \ r_1\times r_2 + r1\times r_3 + r_2\times r_3 = b and r 3 + r 1 = a r 2 r_3+r1 = -a -r_2
then ( b + r 2 2 ) ( a + r 2 ) = 1 r 2 3 + r 2 2 a + b r 2 + a b = 1 \\ -(b+r_2^{2})(a+r_2) = -1 \Leftrightarrow r_2^{3} + r_2^{2}a + br_2 + ab = 1 r 2 3 + r 2 2 a + b r 2 + a b + a = 1 + a \Leftrightarrow r_2^{3} + r_2^{2}a + br_2 + ab + a = 1 + a or r 2 r_2 is a root then r 2 3 + r 2 2 a + b r 2 + a b + a = 0 r_2^{3} + r_2^{2}a + br_2 + ab + a = 0\ then we have a b = 1 + a b = 1 + 1 / a ab = 1+a \Leftrightarrow b = 1 +1/a a a and b b are non zero integers : a = 1 b = 2 \boxed{a = 1} \ \boxed{ b = 2}

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