Another Ellipse Problem

Geometry Level 4

A variable point P P on an ellipse of eccentricity e = 1 8 e=\dfrac{1}{8} , is joined to it's focii S 1 S_1 and S 2 S_2 .

Given that the locus of the incentre of the triangle Δ P S 1 S 2 \Delta P S_1 S_2 comes out to be a conic;

Evaluate its eccentricity e e' . Now e e' is of the form a b \frac{\sqrt{a}}{b} , where a a and b b are coprime positive integers, find a × b a\times b .


The answer is 6.

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1 solution

Ujjwal Rane
Feb 12, 2015

My apologies for formatting. I was not getting the scroll bar in this window and thus getting back from Preview to Edit was painful. So typed without much feedback :-(

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Let the original ellipse with eccentricity 1 8 \frac{1}{8} be x 2 64 + y 2 63 \frac{x^2}{64}+\frac{y^2}{63} giving a = 8, b = 63 \sqrt{63} and f = 1

For any point P(h,k), the described in-center C will be on the angle bisector of S 1 P S 2 \angle S_{1}PS_{2} . But such angle bisector is also the normal at P!

Equation of a normal at P(h,k) will be y = 64 k 63 h x k 63 y = \frac{64k}{63h}x-\frac{k}{63}

Radius of incircle R = a r e a O f S 1 P S 2 s e m i p e r i m e t e r O f S 1 P S 2 = f k f + a = k 9 R = \frac{areaOfS_{1}PS_{2}}{semiperimeter OfS_{1}PS_{2}} = \frac{fk}{f+a}=\frac{k}{9} = y coordinate of the incenter

Substituting this in equation for the normal: gives C = ( h 8 , k 9 ) C=(\frac{h}{8},\frac{k}{9})

Thus the locus of center C is an ellipse: x 2 1 + 81 y 2 63 \frac{x^2}{1}+\frac{81y^2}{63} giving a = 1 and b = 63 9 b = \frac{\sqrt{63}}{9} and eccentricity e = 1 63 81 = 2 3 e' = \sqrt{1-\frac{63}{81}}=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}

Thus the quantity asked is 2 × 3 = 6 2 \times 3 = 6

Nice work ¨ \ddot\smile

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 4 months ago

How do we prove the angle bisector is normal at the point ??

Vishal Yadav - 4 years, 2 months ago

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That is the property of ellipse. The normal is the bisector. Since an angle bisector is a unique line, the property can be applied in the other direction too. i.e. bisector is the normal.

Ujjwal Rane - 4 years, 1 month ago

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