Are you joking? pt.2

Mr. White is an approximately forty years old father with 4 sons of distinct ages. Writing his age 3 times in succession, we get a 6-digit number that is equal to the product of his age, his wife's age and his 4 sons' ages.

Give the sum of his wife's age and all 4 sons' ages.


The answer is 61.

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6 solutions

Drop TheProblem
Jul 5, 2015

Mr. White's age is a number of 2 digits, x x and y y .

The number we are talking about is N = x y x y x y N=xyxyxy .

We can write N = 1 0 4 x y + 1 0 2 x y + x y = x y ( 1 0 4 + 1 0 2 + 1 ) = 10101 x y N=10^4xy+10^2xy+xy=xy(10^4+10^2+1)=10101xy

10101 = 3 7 13 37 A = ( 3 7 13 37 ) x y 10101=3*7*13*37 \Rightarrow A=(3*7*13*37)xy

In conclusion his wife is 37 and his 4 son's are respectively 13,7,3 and 1 (don't forget about it) years old 1 + 3 + 7 + 13 + 37 = 61 \Rightarrow 1+3+7+13+37=61

This is an interesting problem, thanks for sharing :)

Edit: This problem has been edited to account for the following comment.

Why can't he have sons that are 1, 1, 13, 21? IE If he had his first kid at 16.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago

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in order not to have ambiguity in solution, maybe can add in " four sons of different ages" in the question

Kwong Chin Lam - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Thanks! I've edited the problem like you suggested. :)

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 11 months ago

Of course this is another possible situation, maybe less propable than the other but suits the requests of the problem

Drop TheProblem - 5 years, 11 months ago

Sometimes, we should apply our common sense when sufficient data isn't available in a problem. :)

Satyajit Mohanty - 5 years, 11 months ago

It said four sons of distinct ages so they all have to be different.

Katie Doherty - 5 years, 5 months ago

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The amendment was added after the comments were placed

Robert Hawken - 5 years, 5 months ago

How do you get N=10^4xy+10^2xy+xy?

Shaurya Bansal - 5 years, 5 months ago

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classification des nombres. Si tu as 158 par exemple,tu peux ecrire: 158=100+50+8 158=1 10^2+5 10+8. Donc,si tu as xyxyxy,tu as: xy 10^4+xy 10^2+xy.

Ralph Mackenson Lefruit - 5 years, 1 month ago

I did it just like you did. Let n , m , x 1 , x 2 , x 3 , x 4 n,m,x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4 be the age of the father, the mother, and the 4 sons respectively, and let's suppose the ages are integers.

We have 10101 n = n m i = 1 4 x i 10101n=nm\prod_{i=1}^4 x_i . Thus 10101 = m i = 1 4 x i 10101=m\prod_{i=1}^4 x_i . The prime factorization of 10101 is 3 7 13 37 3\cdot 7\cdot 13\cdot 37 , and we can also factor it as 1 3 7 13 37 1\cdot 3\cdot 7\cdot 13\cdot 37 , so the mother has 37 and the 4 sons 1, 3, 7, 13.

I was thinking about doing that in a way it wasn't needed to know all ages to find the sum.

David Molano - 5 years, 5 months ago

Same solution but yours is much neater!

Walter Tay - 5 years, 1 month ago
Luca Seemungal
Sep 3, 2016

Let Mr White's age be a b \overline {ab} . Reading the question, we formulate the following equation with "Writing his age 3 times in succession, we get a 6-digit number that is equal to the product of his age, his wife's age and his 4 sons' ages.":

a b a b a b = a b × w a b c d \overline{ababab} = \overline{ab} \times wabcd

where w is the age of his wife, and a, b, c, d, are the ages of his sons.

Now, we divide the equation by a b \overline{ab} to get the following: 10101 = w a b c d 10101 = wabcd

Now, we find the prime factors of 10101, by seeing whether the primes up to about 40 divide 10101. This is why we were told that Mr White was "approximately forty years old", so that we can optimise our search for the prime numbers and assume that he was a typical family man. Thankfully, the largest prime was 37:

10101 = 3 × 7 × 13 × 37 10101 = 3 \times 7 \times 13 \times 37 . Because these are the prime factors of 10101 (and they are to no power but 1), these must be their ages. Note that we only have three ages here, so one of his sons must be 1.

Thus, the answer is the sum of their ages

1 + 3 + 7 + 13 + 37 = 61 1 + 3 + 7 + 13 + 37 = 61

Must be nice having most of the ages in your family (bar one) to be prime!

Scrub Lord
Apr 5, 2017

It's pretty easy to see that the product of the ages of the wife and the 4 sons is 10101.

10101 = 101^2 - 100

= 101^2 - 10^2

= (101 -10)(101 +10)

= 91 * 111

= (13 * 7) * (3 * 37) * 1

The conclusion is obvious.

Zoe Codrington
Sep 5, 2018

Let Mr Whites age be W, Let his wife's age be L, And his sons ages will be represented by A, B, C, D If we write Mr Whites two digit age three times, we realise we can express the result as 10000W+100W+W or 10101W, so '10101W=WMABCD' Dividing by W, we get 10101=MABCD and 10101=is the product of 1,3,7,13,37(prime factors plus a one to make 5 ages).Now we know the ages of his relations, and the sum is 61.

You are starting with L and finishing with M

TheBest Buying - 2 years, 5 months ago
Vamsi Bhushan
Oct 17, 2017

404040= 2^3 X 3 X 5 X 7 X 13 X 37; product of ages= 40 X S X W. Eliminate 40 from the prime factors of 404040. Remaining factors= 3X7X13X37, SUM of ages will be= 3+7+13+37+1=61

Vasudha Uddavan
Jan 22, 2019

For all those who are not super mathematically inclined - here goes.

First, we want a number ababab such that it has a lot of factors (at least factors that are obvious to us).

So I went for 454545 because it obviously has 5 and 9 as factors.

Next you prime factorise 454545. You get 454545 = 9 5 3 7 13*37.

Hence 45 is the man's age, 37 is his wife's, 13,7,3 and 1 are his 4 son's ages. And 37+13+7+3+1=61

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