Square Formed From Intersecting Arcs

Geometry Level 2

It is given that the area of square A B C D ABCD is 6 + 3 3 6 + 3 \sqrt{3} . Find the area of square M N P Q MNPQ .

Note : Each square's vertex is a circumcentre of a circular arc.


The answer is 3.

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7 solutions

Milan Milanic
Jan 9, 2016

I don't have the heart to leave this without solution. So...

Solution:

Let a a be a length of the bigger square's edge. Now, let's concentrate on point Q Q (or: M M , N N or P P , conclusion will be the same). I believe, that it can be spotted that B Q BQ and A Q AQ length is a a . Therefore, triangle A B Q ABQ is equilateral. E E and F F shall be midpoints of A B AB and C D CD , respectively. Length of E Q EQ is a 3 2 \frac { a\sqrt { 3 } }{ 2 } , E Q + Q F EQ + QF is a a , therefore Q F = a ( 1 3 2 ) QF = a(1 - \frac { \sqrt { 3 } }{ 2 } ) .

Finally, we can calculate Q N QN ( N E = Q R NE = QR , Q N = a Q R N E QN = a - QR - NE ), which is a ( 3 1 ) a( \sqrt{3} - 1) . Q N QN and M P MP both are equal and are M N P Q MNPQ 's diagonals. Using formula d 2 2 \frac{ d^{2} }{ 2 } we will get that area of M N P Q MNPQ is a 2 ( 2 3 ) a^{2}(2 - \sqrt{3}) . Since a 2 a^{2} is A B C D ABCD 's area, we get 3 ( 2 + 3 ) ( 2 3 ) 3(2 + \sqrt{3})(2 - \sqrt{3}) which is 3 .

Great question @Milan Milanic ! My only recommendation is making the labels on the figure larger, like so. :)

Andrew Ellinor - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Thank you. I guess that enlarging of labels was automatically done already :)

Milan Milanic - 5 years, 1 month ago

Exactly Same Way

Kushagra Sahni - 5 years, 5 months ago

Please let me know how BQ and AQ lenth is a?

arifuzzaman arif - 5 years, 5 months ago

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You use the fact that they are a radius.

Brian Jung - 5 years, 1 month ago

Alrighty then, will try to give best explanation on that.

Take a look at (quarter) circle with circumcentre A A . Every point that lies on circumference of that circle (points: B B , P P , Q Q and D D ) is on same distance from point A A , which is centre of the circle (therefore: segments A B AB , A P AP , A Q AQ and A D AD have the same length).

Now, that goes for (quarter) circle with circumcentre B B and for points A A , M M , Q Q and C C (and appropriate segments).

Therefore, from the first paragraph (not including "Alrighty..." paragraph) we have A B = A Q AB = AQ and from second on we have B A = B Q BA = BQ . Since A B AB is as same thing as B A BA , with length a a .

I hope that everything is explained now :)

Milan Milanic - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Oh got it!Thanks a bunch! :)

arifuzzaman arif - 5 years, 5 months ago

Nice solution, now the area of curved or complete region represented by MNPQ can be evaluated easity too

Deepak Kumar - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Could you post that version of the problem? Thanks!

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 5 months ago
Drex Beckman
Jan 9, 2016

I solved it a bit differently. To start, I knew the vesica was used to construct equilateral triangles. So, we know the angle QCP, for example, is 60 degrees. So: 90 = 60 + 2 θ 90=60+2\theta . We quickly find theta is 15. We kind the adjacent side of a right triangle easily: a = s q r t ( 6 + 3 3 ) / 2 1.67 a=\ sqrt{(6+3\sqrt{3})}/2\approx 1.67 . And we find the hypotenuse: h = 1.67 / c o s ( 15 ) 1.73 h= 1.67/cos(15)\approx 1.73 . Squaring this gives us the answer: 3 \boxed{3} .

Your solution is good and I like the way you did it. A bit more trigonometry, but I don't judge. Thanks for sharing it :)

Milan Milanic - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Haha thanks. :)

Drex Beckman - 5 years, 5 months ago
Roger Erisman
Jan 11, 2016

Equation of circle with center at A(0,0)

x^2 + y^2 = r^2 = 6 + 3*sqrt(3) [1]

Equation of circle with center at B(6 + 3*sqrt(3), 0)

(x - 6 - 3 sqrt(3))^2 +y^2 = 6 + 3 sqrt(3) [2]

Subtracting [1] from [2] :

(x - 6 - 3*sqrt(3))^2 - x^2 = 0

Expanding and simplifying:

x^2 - 2 x * sqrt(6 + 3 sqrt(3)) + 6 + 3sqrt(3) - x^2 = 0

    6 + 3 * sqrt(3) = 2 * sqrt( 6 + 3*sqrt(3)) * x

    x = ( 6 + 3 * sqrt(3))/ 2*sqrt(6 + 3*sqrt(3))   = app. 1.673

Substituting into [1]

   y = 2.8978

By reflection across y = x a second point is:

 x = 2.8978       y = 1.673

Distance formula yields length of side = 1.7321

Area = 1.7321^2 = 3

Very nicely explained. That is solved using analytical geometry (if I guessed the name correctly, non-native english speaker). Thank you for revealing and explaining your solution. :)

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Milan Milanic - 5 years, 5 months ago
Jai Jain
Jan 10, 2016

The way i did it was by forming an equilateral triangle, solving for the area of the sectors and then solving for the arrow shapes and so forth. I was left with a reuleauxish type square in the centre with an area of 3.52. I then let A denote the side of the square MNPQ, substituting the values of 3,2 and 1 seeing which one would equal (6+3*(sqrt3)), and three was the answer

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Unfortunately, your solution doesn't offer enough specific details, for me to comment on it. For example, which "rea of sectors and arrow shapes and so forth" did you solve for, and how did you do so?

I'm not sure what the last line meant, especially "substituting the values of 3, 2, and 1 seeing ..."

Nelson Mandela
Jan 10, 2016

Take a vertex as origin and side length a and find two of the points on the square by solving quarter circle double equations. Knowing the side or required square in terms of a, area can be easily calculated. The two points are (asin30,acos30) and (asin60,acos60).

Emmanouil Zervas
Apr 27, 2016

Excellent problem! Thank you!

Amed Lolo
Jan 13, 2016

make a line between point Q&A,P&A,project a 90° line form p to AB let us call intersection point z&connect point A to median point of line PQ call it( u),at∆ pzA sin(mAp)=opposite \hypotenuse,opp=square side\2,hypotenuse=square side =Ap (radius ),so sin(mAP)=square side\2÷square side =.5,angle=30°,at∆cAB angle (cAB)=45°,so angle (pau)=45-30=15°,from symmetry angle (pAQ)=15×2=30°,from geometry of ∆PAQ,cos30=PA^2+QA^2- PQ^2 (2×PA×QA),pa=qa=square side ,cos30=2(PA)^2-(PQ^2)\2PA^2, √3\2×2×(6+3√3)=2×(6+3√3)-PQ^2 ,,,,,,,,,,,,pQ^2 =required area =12+6√3 -6√3-9=3

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