Arithmetically Progressive

Algebra Level 1

If A , B , C , D A, B, C, D are consecutive terms in an arithmetic progression, what is the value of

D 2 A 2 C 2 B 2 ? \frac{ D^2 - A^2 } { C^2 - B^2} ?

Assume C 2 B 2 0. C^2 - B^2 \neq 0.

1 3 9 It depends

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6 solutions

Calvin Lin Staff
Sep 17, 2014

I found this identify surprising when I first saw it.

Simply substitute A = a A = a , B = a + d B = a+d , C = a + 2 d C = a+2d , D = a + 3 d D = a + 3d to obtain

D 2 A 2 C 2 B 2 = ( D A ) ( D + A ) ( C B ) ( C + B ) = 3 d ( 2 a + 3 d ) d ( 2 a + 3 d ) = 3. \frac{D^2 - A^2 } { C^2 - B^2 } = \frac{ (D-A)(D+A) } { (C-B)(C+B) } = \frac{ 3d ( 2a+3d) } { d (2a+3d) } = 3.

how can we substitute in Arithmetic progression ? I can't get it clearly, and How may I assign these substituted value, I have no idea about it, give me some idea about it.

Sidra Wagan - 6 years, 8 months ago

What is a non-constant aarithmetic progresion?

Juan rodrígez - 6 years, 8 months ago

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The constant arithmetic progression is c , c , c , c , c, c, c, c, \ldots , i.e. where the common difference is 0.

The reason for adding in "non-constant", is so that the denominator is not 0.

I rephrased the question.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 8 months ago

Did it the same way except I substituted B = A + d , C = A + 2 d , D = A + 3 d B=A+d,C=A+2d,D=A+3d

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 6 years, 6 months ago

It's quite surprising to know this !

Anurag Pandey - 4 years, 9 months ago

lets say A=a-2d , B=a-d , C=a+d , D=c+2d . now simply putting these values on the given expression we get 2 which is not in the option. so i gives there is problem. please recheck it.

Pankaj Kumar - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Note that a 2 d , a d , a + d , a + 2 d a-2d, a-d, a+d, a+2d is not an arithmetic progression. The differences are d , 2 d , d d, 2d, d .

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 8 months ago
Sandeep Bhardwaj
Sep 17, 2014

Let us assume that A , B , C A,B,C and D D are the terms of an arithmetic progression with common difference d d .

Now we have the given expression D 2 A 2 C 2 B 2 = ( D + A ) ( D A ) ( C + B ) ( C B ) . \frac{D^2-A^2}{C^2-B^2} =\frac{(D+A)(D-A)}{(C+B)(C-B)}.

And since we know that D + A = C + B D+A=C+B because sum of the terms of an AP equidistant from the beginning and the end is always constant irrespective of the distance, therefore further we have the given expression = ( D A ) ( C B ) = 3 d d = 3. =\frac{(D-A)}{(C-B)} =\dfrac{3d}{d} =3. \square

Advaith Nandelli
Dec 31, 2014

4 terms are a-d, a, a+d, a+2d hence it reduces to (2a+d)3d/(2a+d)d = 3

Great! Isn't it surprising?

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 5 months ago
Adnan Ilyas
Oct 13, 2014

I think the simplest way of solving this is to just stick numbers in.

A =1

B =2

C =3

D = 4

1^2 = 1

2^2 = 4

3^2 = 9

4^2 = 16

16 - 1 / 9 - 4

15/5 = 3

So, a solution is 3. However, there's a possible answer that says "It depends". That means we need to repeat this to see if we get 3 again. We'll keep it simple. Just use the next set of numbers

A =2 _ _ 2^2 = 4 B =3 _ 3^2 = 9 C =4 _ 4^2 = 16 D = 5 _ _ 5^2 = 25

25 - 4 / 16 - 9

= 3 So, 3 is our answer.

It's even easier if you sub a=-1 b = 0 c=1 and d=2

Josh Banister - 6 years, 5 months ago

@Adnan Ilyas :Two examples isn't a concrete proof in mathematical terms - all it means is that you haven't found an exception yet - and considering all the sets of 4 numbers you could use - 2 examples is a very small sample set. To proove these things conclusively - you need to use algebraic manipulation - i.e. proove that no matter what number set you use - yet get the same answer - and you can only do that with algebra (or in this case you can use logic - as suggested by Sandeep above).

Tony Flury - 5 years, 9 months ago
David Blenheim
Sep 19, 2014

Unsure whether this constitutes formal proof, because it's a particular case, though it seems obvious that its result would apply to any arithmetic progression.

Susbitute D for the expression (x+3), and A for the expression (x), with B and C covering the intermittent arithmetic integer values (x+1) and (x+2) respectively.

Expanding the brackets and collecting like terms leaves us with (6x+9)/(2x+3) = 3

If you substituted in ( x + 3 y ) ( x + 3y ) instead, you would have obtained a formal proof!

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 8 months ago
Musheer Uzzaman
May 31, 2015

We can take any series, let us suppose a=2,b=3,c=4,d=5. Now substitute these values in the given problem and solve it. (25-4)/(16-9)=3

You have only proven it for a specific series. How can we prove it for a general arithmetic progression?

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years ago

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