x 3 − 1 0 x 2 − 2 5 x + 1 2 5 = 0
Let a > b > c be the three solutions of the equation above. What is the value of a 2 b + b 2 c + c 2 a ?
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I don't know how to find discriminant of a cubic. Can you explain it, please?
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See this wikipedia page on discriminant.
Excellent solution. Thank you for posting it.
Hello everyone, i'm still stuck trying to see why X - Y = (a-c)(a-b)(b-c), i can't really get how the last line of he "proof" works
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collect terms with (b-c) and terms with (a-b), you get (bc-ca) (b-c) + (ab-ca) (a-b). Then collect - c from first bracket and a from third bracket you should get the factorization (a-b) (b-c) (a-c).
a + b + c = 1 0 , a b + b c + c a = − 2 5 , a b c = − 1 2 5 .
Terms like
a
2
b
,
b
2
c
,
c
2
a
can be got by multiplying
(
a
+
b
+
c
)
and
(
a
b
+
b
c
+
c
a
)
.
(
a
+
b
+
c
)
(
a
b
+
b
c
+
c
a
)
=
a
2
b
+
b
2
c
+
c
2
a
+
a
b
2
+
b
c
2
+
c
a
2
+
3
a
b
c
.
Let
X
=
a
2
b
+
b
2
c
+
c
2
a
and
Y
=
a
b
2
+
b
c
2
+
c
a
2
.
Straightforward algebraic manipulations give
X
+
Y
=
(
a
+
b
+
c
)
(
a
b
+
b
c
+
c
a
)
−
3
a
b
c
. Inserting the values,
X
+
Y
=
1
2
5
.
Also,
X
−
Y
=
(
a
−
b
)
(
a
−
c
)
(
b
−
c
)
. Using the given constraint
a
>
b
>
c
,
X
−
Y
>
0
i.e.
X
>
Y
.
Multiplying
X
&
Y
,
X
Y
=
a
3
b
3
+
b
3
c
3
+
c
3
a
3
+
a
b
c
(
a
3
+
b
3
+
c
3
)
+
3
(
a
b
c
)
2
.
It can be shown that
a
3
b
3
+
b
3
c
3
+
c
3
a
3
=
(
a
b
+
b
c
+
c
a
)
3
−
3
a
b
c
(
a
+
b
+
c
)
(
a
b
+
b
c
+
c
a
)
+
3
(
a
b
c
)
2
.
a
3
+
b
3
+
c
3
=
(
a
+
b
+
c
)
3
−
3
(
a
+
b
+
c
)
(
a
b
+
b
c
+
c
a
)
+
3
a
b
c
.
Plugging the values,
X
Y
=
−
1
2
×
1
2
5
2
.
X
+
Y
=
1
2
5
and
X
Y
=
−
1
2
×
1
2
5
2
.
Solving
X
=
4
×
1
2
5
,
Y
=
−
3
×
1
2
5
.
X
=
5
0
0
.
nice solution
How do you know that X = − 3 7 5 ?
X = − 3 7 5 , Y = 5 0 0 is also a solution.
The value of X is greater than Y
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Let X = a 2 b + b 2 c + c 2 a and Y = a b 2 + b c 2 + c a 2 .
⇒ X − Y = a b ( a − b ) + b c ( b − c ) + c a ( c − a )
= a b ( a − b ) + b c ( b − c ) + c a ( c − b + b − a )
= a b ( a − b ) + b c ( b − c ) − c a ( b − c ) − c a ( a − b )
= ( a − c ) ( a − b ) ( b − c )
Now, using the definition of discriminant we have
Δ = ( a − c ) 2 ( a − b ) 2 ( b − c ) 2
The discriminant for the cubic polynomial p x 3 + q x 2 + r x + s is given by
q 2 r 2 − 4 p r 3 − 4 q 3 s − 2 7 p 2 s 2 + 1 8 p q r s
On Solving we get Δ = 7 6 5 6 2 5
Since X − Y is positive we have X − Y = Δ = 8 7 5
Also ( a + b + c ) ( a b + b c + a c ) = X + Y + 3 a b c
Using Vieta's Formula we get
X + Y = 1 2 5
Solving the 2 equations we get X = 5 0 0 .