Let a < b < c be the three real solutions of the equation
x 3 − 7 x + 7 = 0
What's the value of ( 3 a − 4 ) ( 3 a − 5 ) ( 3 c − 3 b − 1 ) ?
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What motivates you to substitute x = 2 − t + 2 1 ?
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It was just instinct. I tried all the substitutions of the form x = a − t + b 1 in order to obtain the polynomial t 3 + t 2 − 2 t − 1 = 0 . I was sure that that polynomial could be reached because there are various sevens in the equation. Again, it was just instinct.
Your solution is amazing although it isn't complete, but still the way you figured out the roots is absolutely amazing.
Try using newton's sums
@Emmanuel Lasker whats your solution?
I must confess I solved it, by using the peasant way , calculating the roots of a depleted cubic.
I am sure the bright brains, plentiful around in this website, will use a clever and skillful manipulation of Cardano-Vietta relations to come out with a more elegant procedure so far elusive to me.
I left the question unanswered because I thought there might be a proper solution for this question...
I'm certainly looking forward to a nice solution :)
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why don't u post one ? i will try to when time permits me.
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Could somebody please post a more simpler solution. No offence to the solution already posted.It is simply too good for me.
Can't you just use cubic formula or iterate the equation?
3c-3b-1 is from .02 to .00537 depending on accuracy. So the answer would require great accuracy. With my TI-83 and approximate value from graph, I was able to work out the answer. My b=1.3568959, and c=1.692021472. And the answer .9997985672. That is after knowing the answer I increased my accuracy.
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This is not a complete solution. First I made the substitution x = 2 − t + 2 1 to obtain ( 2 − t + 2 1 ) 3 − 7 ( 2 − t + 2 1 ) + 7 = 0 . After expanding and multiply both sides by ( t + 2 ) 3 we obtain t 3 + t 2 − 2 t − 1 = 0 . Now let t = y + y 1 :
( y + y 1 ) 3 + ( y + y 1 ) 2 − 2 ( y + y 1 ) − 1 = 0
Do the same, expand and multiply both sides by y 3 :
y 6 + y 5 + y 4 + y 3 + y 2 + y + 1 = 0
y 7 = 1 , y = 1
So y = e 7 2 π k i for k ∈ [ 1 , 6 ] .
Now, t = e 7 2 π k i + e − 7 2 π k i = 2 cos ( 7 2 π k ) , this time for k ∈ [ 1 , 3 ] because for k ∈ [ 4 , 6 ] we obtain the same.
And finally, x = 2 − 2 + 2 cos ( 7 2 π k ) 1 = 2 − 4 1 sec 2 ( 7 π k ) .
Obtain a , b and c with the given condition:
a = 2 − 4 1 sec 2 ( 7 3 π ) b = 2 − 4 1 sec 2 ( 7 2 π ) c = 2 − 4 1 sec 2 ( 7 π )
But how can we find the asked value from here? I tried to substitute them but I got stuck.