Basic Bases!

Let us define 2 number base systems as A A and B B . It is given to us that 3 1 A = 2 A 1 7 A 31_{A}=2_{A}*17_{A} and 4 4 B = 3 B 1 3 B 44_{B}=3_{B}*13_{B} , find the value of ( A + B ) 10 (A+B)_{10} .

Details - X y X_{y} indicates X X in base y y


The answer is 18.

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The first equation translates to 3 A + 1 = 2 ( A + 7 ) A = 13 3A + 1 = 2*(A + 7) \Longrightarrow A = 13 .

The second equation translates to 4 B + 4 = 3 ( B + 3 ) B = 5 4B + 4 = 3*(B + 3) \Longrightarrow B = 5 .

Thus ( A + B ) 10 = 13 + 5 = 18 (A + B)_{10} = 13 + 5 = \boxed{18} .

Looks like you did 10th digit * A or 10th digit * B plus the unit digit

What I would like to know is that if it is the way to approach these? Because some techniques I've seen in this problem still exceeds my current ability on this.

And also, is there any other ways to solve them?

Thanks

Awnon Bhowmik - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Yes... it's how bases work.

Just as you can say 56 (base 10) is 5 * 10 + 6, you can then convert 31 in base A to 3 * A + 1. :)

Joeie Christian Santana - 6 years, 8 months ago

Well, when I see something like x y A xy_{A} I translate this to

x A 1 + y A 0 = x A + y x*A^{1} + y*A^{0} = xA + y

to know what value in base 10 10 I'm dealing with.

If it was something like x y z A xyz_{A} then the base 10 10 value would be

x A 2 + y A 1 + z A 0 = x A 2 + y A + z x*A^{2} + y*A^{1} + z*A^{0} = xA^{2} + yA + z .

If the base is unknown and we are given an equation like 3 1 A = 2 A 1 7 A 31_{A} = 2_{A} * 17_{A} then I think the approach I've taken to determine A A is as efficient as any. If we know the base and we have to determine the value of, say, 2 13 1 7 13 2_{13} * 17_{13} , then we can work in base 13 13 directly without converting to base 10 10 first.

So with 2 13 1 7 13 2_{13} * 17_{13} , we start by noting that

2 13 7 13 = 1 1 13 2_{13} * 7_{13} = 11_{13} and 2 13 1 0 13 = 2 0 13 2_{13} * 10_{13} = 20_{13} ,

and so 2 13 1 7 13 = 1 1 13 + 2 0 13 = 3 1 13 2_{13} * 17^{13} = 11_{13} + 20_{13} = 31_{13} .

It's a bit confusing when dealing with a two-digit base such as 13 13 , because something like 1 0 13 10_{13} could be interpreted as either 10 10 or 1 13 + 0 = 13 1*13 + 0 = 13 in base 10 10 . I'm not sure what is normally done to distinguish between the two, but I myself would write ( 10 ) 13 (10)_{13} to indicate 10 10 in base 10 10 , and 1 0 13 10_{13} to indicate 13 13 in base 10 10 .

Hopefully I haven't made this even more confusing. when I'm in doubt I convert everything into base 10 10 first so that I'm in familiar territory, but with practice you can begin to work in different bases directly without first converting to base 10 10 .

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 8 months ago

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