Basketball and tennis ball-2!

Now consider n n balls, B 1 , . . . , B n B_1, . . . , B_n , having masses m 1 , m 2 , . . . , m n m_1, m_2, . . . , m_n ( w i t h m 1 > > m 2 > > > > m n ) (with~ m_1 >>m_2 >>· · ·>>m_n) , sitting in a vertical stack. The bottom of B 1 B_1 is a height h h above the ground, and the bottom of B n B_n is a height h + l h + l above the ground. The balls are dropped. In terms of n n , to what height does the top ball bounce?

(Note: Work in the approximation where m 1 m_1 is much larger than m 2 m_2 , which is much larger than m 3 m_3 , etc., and assume that the balls bounce elastically.)

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H = l + ( 4 n ) 2 h H = l + (4^n)^2 h H = l + ( 2 n ) 2 h H = l + (2^n)^2 h H = l + ( 4 n 1 ) 2 h H = l + (4^n -1)^2 h None of These H = l + ( 2 n 1 ) 2 h H = l + (2^n -1)^2 h

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1 solution

Nishant Rai
May 20, 2015

Just before B 1 B_1 hits the ground, all of the balls are moving downward with speed v = 2 g h v =\sqrt{2gh} .

We will inductively determine the speed of each ball after it bounces off the one below it. If B i B_i achieves a speed of v i v_i after bouncing off B i 1 B_{i-1} , then what is the speed of B i + 1 B_{i+1} after it bounces off B i B_i ?

The relative speed of B i + 1 B_{i+1} and B i B_i (right before they bounce) is v + v i v + v_i .

This is also the relative speed after they bounce. Since B i B_i is still moving upwards at essentially speed v i v_i , the final upward speed of B i + 1 B_{i+1} is therefore ( v + v i ) + v i (v + v_i) + v_i .

Thus, v i + 1 = 2 v i + v . . . . . ( 3 ) v_{i +1} = 2v_i + v ..... (3) .

Since v 1 = v v_1 = v , we obtain v 2 = 3 v v_2 = 3v , v 3 = 7 v v_3 = 7v , v 4 = 15 v v_4 = 15v , etc.

In general, v n = ( 2 n 1 ) v . . . . . . . ( 4 ) v_n = (2n - 1)v ....... (4) which is easily seen to satisfy eq. (3), with the initial value v 1 = v v_1 = v .

From conservation of energy, B n B_n will bounce to a height of H = l + ( ( 2 n 1 ) v ) 2 2 g = l + ( 2 n 1 ) 2 h H = l +\frac{((2n - 1)v)^2}{2g} = l + (2n - 1)^2h

hey friend,

in the alternatives there is l+(2^n-1)²h, and not the correct answer, that is l+(2n-1)²h.

by the way, i get the incorrect answer because of this. I marked "none of these".

Claudio Felipe - 6 years ago

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@Claudio Felipe

this solution is correct !

while writing the answer, i made a mistake of writing ( 2 n ) (2n) instead of ( 2 n ) (2^n) . I have now edited the solution!

Nishant Rai - 6 years ago

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it's ok thanks

Claudio Felipe - 6 years ago

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