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If 3721 = x × y 3721=x \times y , where x x and y y are integers, find the maximum value of x + y x+y .


The answer is 3722.

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9 solutions

  • The largest x + y x + y sum of any number will always be when x is the number itself and y is 1 , as the all other sums are substantially lower.
  • According to this, we have the largest sum is ( x = 3721 ) + ( y = 1 ) = 3722 (x = 3721) + (y = 1) = 3722 .
J Chaturvedi
Feb 13, 2015

(x+y)^2 = (x-y)^2 + 4xy.
For (x+y) to be max, (x-y) should be max because 4xy is fixed. For (x-y) to be max, x needs to be max and y needs to be min. Minimum possible y is 1 => x=3721. Ans. = 3721+1=3722.

Gamal Sultan
Feb 13, 2015

3721 = (61)(61) = (1)(3721) = (3721)(1)

Then

x = 61, y = 61

or

x = 1 , y = 3721

or

x = 3721 , y = 1

Then

The maximum value of x + y is 3722

That was over complicated

Akshayan Manivannan - 4 years, 8 months ago
Lee Young Kyu
Feb 11, 2015

Let x=u+v, y=u-v, xy>0, thus x and y are both positive or both negative, but since we are finding the maximum value of x+y, we can assume that x and y are both positive, hence u>0 and u>v.

And we can assume x>y without loss of generality aince x and y can be switched freely. So we can assume u>v>0.

x+y=2u is directly proportional to u, so the larger the u, the larger the x+y

3721=xy=(u-v)(u+v)=u^2-v^2

And now we want to make u as large as possible, but u^2-v^2 is a constant, larger the v^2, the larger the u^2.=> larger the v, the larger the u.

So we need to make v as large as possible.

v=(x-y)/2

So the larger the value of x- y, the larger the value of x+y. xy=3721, x=3721 , y=1 give us the largest value of x-y, so largest value of x+y=3721+1=3722

Paulo Carlos
Feb 11, 2015

Only have two solutions for x + y x + y : 122 122 or 3722 3722

Then the answer is 3722 \boxed {3722}

Pushan Paul
May 24, 2016

The lowest value we can consider of x or y is 1. The x or y=3721. Then x+y=3721+1=3722

Eric Belrose
Dec 17, 2015

The answer had to be a positive odd number... First thing tried was root. 61 is a prime. Factors of 3721 are 1, 61, 3721.

a b = c d ( a b ) 2 < ( c d ) 2 a + b < c + d a b = c d d = 1 c = a b a b = c d d = 1 ( c d ) 2 = ( a b 1 ) 2 a b = c d d = 1 ( a b ) 2 ( c d ) 2 a b = c d d = 1 ( a b ) 2 < ( c d ) 2 a + b < a b + 1 3721 = x y x y + 1 = 3722 ab=cd\quad \wedge \quad \sqrt { { \left( a-b \right) }^{ 2 } } <\sqrt { { \left( c-d \right) }^{ 2 } } \quad \Rightarrow \quad a+b<c+d\\ ab=cd\quad \wedge \quad d=1\quad \Rightarrow \quad c=ab\\ ab=cd\quad \wedge \quad d=1\quad \Rightarrow \quad \sqrt { { \left( c-d \right) }^{ 2 } } =\sqrt { { \left( ab-1 \right) }^{ 2 } } \\ ab=cd\quad \wedge \quad d=1\quad \Rightarrow \quad \sqrt { { \left( a-b \right) }^{ 2 } } \le \sqrt { { \left( c-d \right) }^{ 2 } } \\ ab=cd\quad \wedge \quad d=1\quad \wedge \quad \sqrt { { \left( a-b \right) }^{ 2 } } <\sqrt { { \left( c-d \right) }^{ 2 } } \quad \Rightarrow \quad a+b<ab+1\\ 3721=xy\\ xy+1=3722\\

Roman Frago
Feb 11, 2015

let f ( x ) = x + y f(x)=x+y

f ( x ) = x + 3721 x f(x)=x+\frac {3721} {x}

f ( x ) = 1 2 ( 3721 ) x 2 f'(x)=1-\frac {2(3721)} {x^2}

When f ( x ) = 0 f'(x)=0 , x = 86.27 , 86.27 x= 86.27,-86.27

For f ( x ) > 0 f'(x)>0 at x > 86.27 x>86.27 , then f ( x ) f(x) continues to increase. But what is the max value of x x such that x > 86.27 x>86.27 and is a factor of 3721 3721 ? 3721 3721 .

Thus, f ( x ) = 3722 f(x)=3722 .

Also, f ( x ) f(x) continues to increase as x x moves away from 86.27 86.27 towards 0 0 . What is the smallest factor of 3721 3721 then? 1 1 .

Thus, f ( x ) = 3722 f(x)=3722 .

-the derivative is incorrect.

Waseem Jafary - 6 years, 4 months ago

Derivative of f(x) is incorrect .

Ram Kannoju - 6 years, 4 months ago

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