Be Logical

Calculus Level 3

Suppose me and you enter a classroom where on the blackboard a set of consecutive positive integers starting with 1 were written.

Now I erase a number and calculate the A.M of the remaining number that was found to be 35 + 7 17 35 + \frac{7}{17} and then I rub the board completely .

Now you don't now which number was erased , then what was the number


The answer is 7.

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2 solutions

Mvs Saketh
Oct 26, 2014

Beautiful problem, simple and logical,,

Its funny how the simple condition that all involved numbers are natural numbers gives us just enough equations to solve the problem, like the constraint equations in physics,

let there be 'n' positive consecutive integers on board starting from 1 initially,

then initial sum of the numbers is

n ( n + 1 ) 2 \frac { n(n+1) }{ 2 }

now if k was removed, then sum of numbers becomes

n ( n + 1 ) 2 k \frac { n(n+1) }{ 2 } -k

and the corresponding AM is

n ( n + 1 ) 2 ( n 1 ) k n 1 \frac { n(n+1) }{ 2(n-1) } -\frac { k }{ n-1 } which is equal to

35 + 7 17 = ( 7 ) ( 86 ) 17 35+\frac { 7 }{ 17 } =\frac { (7)(86) }{ 17 }

now isolating k in the equations we get

n ( n + 1 ) 2 ( 7 ) ( 86 ) 17 ( n 1 ) = k \frac { n(n+1) }{ 2 } -\frac { (7)(86) }{ 17 } (n-1)=k

Now k should be an integer, and we know n(n+1)/2 is obviously an integer , so we need

( 7 ) ( 86 ) 17 ( n 1 ) \frac { (7)(86) }{ 17 } (n-1)\\ to be an integer,

which is possible only if n-1 is divisible by 17, so let n-1=17c for some natural number 'c'

also we need k to be less than n, using both the constraints we see that c=4 or n=69 from which we get k =7

However i personally recommend avoid the second constraint as it is cumbersome,, as clearly we need the smallest possible solution for 1st constraint which is easily verifiable to be at c = 4

Anuj Mishra
Jun 24, 2015

It was really fun solving this... Beautiful problem.

There is a property that i just observed and proved myself. I t s a y s i f A M o f f i r s t n n a t u r a l n o . s = K It\ says\ if\ AM\ of\ first\ n\ natural\ no.'s\ =\ K

T h e n , A M a f t e r e r a s i n g a n y n o . o u t o f i t , s a y W [ ( k 1 2 ) , ( k + 1 2 ) ] Then, \ AM\ after\ erasing\ any\ no.\ out\ of\ it,\ say\ W \ \in [(k-\frac{1}{2}) ,(k+\frac{1}{2})] T r y t o p r o v e t h i s y o u r s e l f . . I t s e a s y . . \boxed{Try\ to\ prove\ this\ yourself.. It's\ easy..}

T h e A M o f n o . s b e f o r e e r a s i n g c a n o n l y b e 35 o r 35.5. \Rightarrow The \ AM \ of\ no.'s\ before\ erasing\ can\ only\ be\ 35\ or\ 35.5.

n = 69 o r 70 \Rightarrow n=69\ or\ 70

Now let the required no. be X.

X = n ( n + 1 ) 2 602 17 ( n 1 ) \Rightarrow X= \frac{n*(n+1)} {2} - \frac{602}{17} (n-1)\

Since (n-1) must be a multiple of 17 gives n = 69. n=69.

Putting it back in the equation , we get

X = 7 \boxed {X=7}

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