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The answer to this question can be expressed as a b \frac{a}{b} . Calculate the sum of a + b a+b


The answer is 307.

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From ( x + y ) 2 = x 2 + 2 x y + y 2 (x+y)^2=x^2+2xy+y^2 ,

( 5 2 ) 2 = 13 4 + 2 x y \Rightarrow \left( \dfrac{5}{2} \right)^2 = \dfrac{13}{4} + 2xy

2 x y = 25 4 13 4 = 12 4 = 3 \Rightarrow 2xy = \dfrac{25}{4} - \dfrac{13}{4} = \dfrac{12}{4} = 3

Now, x ( x + y ) = ( x ) 5 2 x(x+y)=(x) \dfrac{5}{2}

2 x 2 + 2 x y = 5 x \quad \Rightarrow 2x^2 +2xy = 5x

2 x 2 + 3 = 5 x \quad \quad 2x^2 +3 = 5x

2 x 2 5 x + 3 = 0 \quad \quad 2x^2 - 5x +3 = 0

( 2 x 3 ) ( x 1 ) = 0 \quad \quad (2x-3)(x-1) = 0

x = 3 2 , 1 y = 3 2 , 1 \quad \Rightarrow x = \frac{3}{2}, 1 \quad \Rightarrow y = \frac{3}{2}, 1

Note that x x and y y are interchangeable. ( x , y ) = ( 3 2 , 1 ) , ( 1 , 3 2 ) (x,y)=(\frac{3}{2},1), (1, \frac{3}{2}) .

Therefore,

x 5 + y 5 = 1 5 + ( 3 2 ) 5 = 1 + 243 32 = 275 32 = a b x^5+y^5=1^5+ \left( \dfrac{3}{2} \right) ^5 = 1 + \dfrac{243}{32} = \dfrac{275}{32} = \dfrac{a}{b}

a + b = 307 \Rightarrow a+b = \boxed{307}

a^3 + b^3 = (a + b)^3 − 3ab(a + b) put here a=x^2 and b=y^2... then we solve this we find x^5+y^5= 793/64 then ans will be 857... what's wrong with this.?

Varun Narayan - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Found it! If a=x^2, then a^3 will equal (x^2)^3 = x^6. The question asks you to find x^5, and not x^6.

Ishan Mishra - 6 years, 6 months ago

Simply I found that.
X=3/2 y=2/2

Saurav Sah - 6 years, 9 months ago

I found (x+y)^2=(5/2)^2 x^2+2xy +y^2 =25/4 x^2+y^2+2xy=25/4 13/4+2xy=25/4 2xy=25/4-13/4 2xy=3 xy=3/2 NOW x+y=5/2-(1) xy=3/2-(2) By solving this system of simultaneous equations,I got x=1,y=3/2 plugging these values in i got 243/32 so 243+32=307......YAYYYY!!!

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 6 years, 8 months ago

did same way!

will jain - 6 years, 7 months ago
Smeax Ker
Sep 8, 2014

e = 2 e=2

x = c e , y = d e x=\frac{c}{e} , y=\frac{d}{e}

c + d = 5 c+d=5

c 2 + d 2 = 13 c^{2}+d^{2}=13

c = 3 , d = 2 c=3,d=2

c 5 + d 5 = 3 5 + 2 5 = 243 + 32 = 275 c^{5}+d^{5}=3^{5}+2^{5}=243+32=275

b = e 5 = 2 5 = 32 b=e^{5}=2^{5}=32

a + b = 275 + 32 = 307 a+b=275+32=\boxed{307}

Add 2 x y 2xy to both sides of x 2 + y 2 = 13 4 x^2+y^2=\dfrac{13}{4} :

x 2 + 2 x y + y 2 = 13 4 + 2 x y x^2+2xy+y^2=\dfrac{13}{4}+2xy

( x + y ) 2 13 4 = 2 x y (x+y)^2-\dfrac{13}{4}=2xy

( 5 2 ) 2 13 4 = 2 x y \left(\dfrac{5}{2}\right)^2-\dfrac{13}{4}=2xy

x y = 3 2 xy=\dfrac{3}{2}

Now, from ( x + y ) 5 = x 5 + 5 x 4 y + 10 x 3 y 2 + 10 x 2 y 3 + 5 x y 4 + y 5 (x+y)^5=x^5+5x^4y+10x^3y^2+10x^2y^3+5xy^4+y^5 obtain x 5 + y 5 x^5+y^5 :

x 5 + y 5 = ( x + y ) 5 5 x y ( x 3 + y 3 ) 10 ( x y ) 2 ( x + y ) x^5+y^5=(x+y)^5-5xy(x^3+y^3)-10(xy)^2(x+y)

x 5 + y 5 = ( x + y ) 5 5 x y ( x + y ) ( x 2 + y 2 x y ) 10 ( x y ) 2 ( x + y ) x^5+y^5=(x+y)^5-5xy(x+y)(x^2+y^2-xy)-10(xy)^2(x+y)

x 5 + y 5 = ( 5 2 ) 5 5 ( 3 2 ) ( 5 2 ) ( 13 4 3 2 ) 10 ( 3 2 ) 2 ( 5 2 ) x^5+y^5=\left(\dfrac{5}{2}\right)^5-5\left(\dfrac{3}{2}\right) \left(\dfrac{5}{2}\right) \left(\dfrac{13}{4}-\dfrac{3}{2}\right)-10 \left(\dfrac{3}{2}\right)^2 \left(\dfrac{5}{2}\right)

x 5 + y 5 = 275 32 x^5+y^5=\dfrac{275}{32}

Hence, a = 275 a=275 , b = 32 b=32 and a + b = 307 a+b=\boxed{307} .

Rohit Sachdeva
Sep 5, 2014

x+y=5/2

(x+y)²=x²+y²+2xy

25/4=13/4+2xy

xy=3/2

So x & y are 2 numbers whose sum=5/2 and product=3/2

So they will satisfy the equation ∅²-S∅+P=0 which is quadratic in ∅

∅²-(5/2)∅+(3/2)=0

2∅²-5∅+3=0

∅=1,3/2=(x,y) or (y,x)

x 5 + y 5 = 1 + ( 243 / 32 ) x^{5}+y^{5}=1+(243/32)

=275/32≈a/b

a+b=275+32=307

Esha Aslam
Oct 6, 2014

x+y =5/2 .........(1)
x^2+y^2 = 13/4 ............(2)

from (1) x= 5/2 -y ...............(3)

put in (2) => (5/2-y)^2 +y^2 =13/4

25/4 +y^2 -5y + y^2 =13/4
=> 2y^2 -5y = 13/4 -25/4

=>2y^2-5y=-3

by solving this quadratic eq. we get roots y= 1 & 3/2 => y^5=243/32 &1

by putting the values of y in (3) we have x= 3/2 &1 => x^5 = 243/32 &1

=> x^5+y^5= 243/32+1= 275/32 =a/b

hence a+b = 307

Ronald Salim
Sep 8, 2014

(x+y)^2 = x^2+2xy+y^2 = 25/4 13/4+2xy = 25/4 xy = 3/2

x^3+y^3 = (x+y)(x^2+y^2-xy) = 5/2*(13/4-3/2) = 35/8

x^5+y^5 = (x^3+y^3)(x^2+y^2) - (xy)^2(x+y) = (35/8)(13/4) - (9/4)(5/2) = 275/32 = a/b so a+b =307

Bogdan Simeonov
Sep 3, 2014

Am I the only one that tried to solve a + b = a b a+b=\frac{a}{b} at first?

ooh sorry but i did not not think it was going to be confusing?

Mardokay Mosazghi - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Lol no problem :D.I just thought that until I saw the image :D

Bogdan Simeonov - 6 years, 9 months ago

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