Beginner Kinematics Problem

A particle is projected from point A A vertically upwards with a speed 50 m/s 50 \text{ m/s} and another is dropped simultaneously from B B which is 200 m 200 \text{ m} vertically above from A A . After how many seconds do they cross each other?


The answer is 4.

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4 solutions

Nihar Mahajan
May 13, 2015

Fix the point where both the particles meet. Let x A x_A be the distance covered by the particle A A and x B x_B be the distance covered by the particle B B .We will use the fact that both particles took the same time ( t ) (t) to meet.

Consider the motion of A A : x A = u A t + 1 2 g t 2 x A = 50 t + 1 2 ( 10 ) t 2 x A = 50 t 5 t 2 x_A=u_At+\dfrac{1}{2}gt^2 \\ x_A=50t + \dfrac{1}{2}(-10)t^2 \\ x_A=50t-5t^2

Consider the motion of B B : x B = u B t + 1 2 g t 2 x B = ( 0 ) t + 1 2 ( 10 ) t 2 x B = 5 t 2 x_B=u_Bt+\dfrac{1}{2}gt^2 \\ x_B=(0)t + \dfrac{1}{2}(10)t^2 \\ x_B=5t^2

But ,

x A + x B = 200 50 t 5 t 2 + 5 t 2 = 200 50 t = 200 t = 4 s e c x_A+x_B=200 \\ \Rightarrow 50t-5t^2+5t^2=200 \\ \Rightarrow 50t=200 \\ \Rightarrow\boxed{t=4 sec}

Good Problem @Swapnil Das . And Easy solution Nihar. :3 :3 I won't EVER appreciate you. xD Jk. Nicely written . Here's a smile:- ¨ \ddot\smile

Mehul Arora - 6 years, 1 month ago

Excellently written Nihar! Upvoted!

Swapnil Das - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Thanks! Keep posting nice problems. Here's a smile: ¨ \ddot \smile

Nihar Mahajan - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I will be, and please be posting nice solutions!

Swapnil Das - 6 years, 1 month ago

To the challenge student: Great work @Nihar Mahajan ! ¨ \huge\ddot\smile , but you must get a huger smile . . . . . .

Sravanth C. - 6 years, 1 month ago

sorry for being ignorant, whats's gt^2?

Martin Kok - 6 years ago

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"g" is the gravitational acceleration and "t" is the time taken.

Nihar Mahajan - 6 years ago
Daniel Liu
May 13, 2015

Since both objects are being influenced by gravity, we can look at the movement of the objects relative to the acceleration of gravity itself. Point A A is moving up at a constant velocity of 50 m/s 50\text{ m/s} while point B B is 200 m 200\text{ m} above point A A and stationary. Thus, they take 200 m ÷ 50 m/s = 4 s 200\text{ m}\div 50\text{ m/s}=\boxed{4\text{ s}} to cross.

The best method to solve this problem!!😀😀

Anurag Pandey - 4 years, 10 months ago

Thank U for posting Daniel!

Swapnil Das - 6 years, 1 month ago

A great insight! The first thing I noticed is that the value of g g hasn't been specified, so I tried just keeping g g in the equation and found that the terms involving g g cancelled out. Your approach is more elegant.

I've seen other puzzles like this, where the value of some parameter seems to be missing but then when you try to solve the puzzle algebraically you find that the answer is the same regardless of the value of the missing parameter.

Stewart Gordon - 6 years, 1 month ago
Sravanth C.
May 13, 2015

My solution is very similar to the one posted by @Nihar Mahajan , even then, I felt like posting, so am I.

Let particle A A meet particle B B , x x m from the ground, hence the Particle B B will meet A A x 200 x-200 m from the top.

Let's first take A A ,

We know that x = u t + 1 2 s t 2 x=ut+\dfrac{1}{2}st^{2}

Substituting the values, we get, x = 50 t + 1 2 ( 10 ) t 2 x=50t+\dfrac{1}{2}(-10)t^{2}

The value of g g is -ve because, the particle is moving against gravity.

Or, x = 50 5 t 2 x=50-5t^{2} . . . . . . . . . . ( i ) ..........(i)


Now, let's trace B B ,

Again substituting the values, we get, ( 200 x ) = 0 t + 1 2 ( 10 ) t 2 (200-x)=0t+\dfrac{1}{2}(10)t^{2}

Here, the value of g g is +ve because, the particle is moving towards gravity.

Or, ( 200 x ) = 5 t 2 (200-x)=5t^{2}

Or, x = 5 t 2 + 200 -x=5t^{2}+200

Or, x = 5 t 2 200 x=-5t^{2}-200 . . . . . . . . . . ( i i ) ..........(ii)


Equating ( i ) (i) and ( i i ) (ii) , 50 t 5 t 2 = 5 t 2 200 50t-5t^{2}=-5t^{2}-200

50 t = 200 50t=200

Therefore, t = 4 t=\boxed{4}

Adithya Hp
May 13, 2015

Both particles have the same acceleration ie g downwards so we can use the concept of relative velocity and simply neglect this acceleration. We can fix the position of dropped particle and imagine the thrown particle has a constant velocity 50 m/s upwards. Using time=Distance/speed; t=200/50=4 seconds

Does it always work?

Swapnil Das - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Yes as long as the acceleration of both particles is the same.

Adithya HP - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Ok, I see.. I shall try to test this concept on other problems, Thanks for a new method Sir!

Swapnil Das - 6 years, 1 month ago

Oh sorry, I didn't see your solution and posted an identical one :P

Daniel Liu - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Its all right . You made it prettier with Latex.

Adithya HP - 6 years, 1 month ago

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