Blow wind blow

Algebra Level 2

In autumn, leaves on a tree turn yellow and start to drop. When the first gust of wind blows, half of the leaves, plus an additional 10 leaves, fall. When the second gust of wind blows, half of the leaves that remain, plus an additional 10 leaves, fall. When the third goes of wind blows, half of the leaves that remain, plus an additional 10 leaves, fall. At this point, there are no more leaves on the tree. How many leaves are there on the tree before the first gust of wind came along?


The answer is 140.

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16 solutions

Arnav Sastry
Aug 20, 2013

This problem is best solved backwards. Let's start with the empty tree. Before it was empty, half of the leaves, and then ten more, fell. If this removes all of the leaves, then there were twenty leaves on the tree before the third gust.

To find out how many leaves were on the tree before the second gust, we work backwards again. Adding ten more leaves, we get thirty leaves. Double that to get sixty leaves. Only one gust to go!

Add ten leaves to get seventy, and then double that to get the answer, one hundred and fourty.

Moderator note:

Indeed! Working backwards makes this problem much more approachable, and reduces the need to introduce other variables / notation.

Jordan Osborn
Aug 19, 2013

N is the amount of leaves at start. After the first gust of wind f leaves remain. N - blown leaves. f = N N 2 10 f=N - \frac{N}{2}-10 f = N 2 10 ( 1 ) f=\frac{N}{2} - 10\hspace{2mm}(1) After the second gust of wind s leaves remain. f - blown leaves (2nd round). s = f f 2 10 s=f - \frac{f}{2}-10 s = f 2 10 ( 2 ) s=\frac{f}{2} - 10\hspace{2mm}(2) After the third gust of wind 0 leaves remain. s - blown leaves (3rd round). 0 = s s 2 10 0=s - \frac{s}{2}-10 0 = s 2 10 ( 3 ) 0=\frac{s}{2} - 10\hspace{2mm}(3) Now we work backwards rearranging equation 3 to find s. s = 20 s=20 Rearrange equation 2 using the fact that s=20. 20 = f 2 10 20=\frac{f}{2}-10 f = 60 f=60 Rearrange equation 1 using the fact that f=60. 60 = N 2 10 60=\frac{N}{2}-10 N = 140 N=140 The number of leaves on the tree before the first gust of wind is therefore 140.

You can actually generalize this solution. For i gusts, iteratively repeat n i = n (i-1) - (n_(i-1))/2 - 10 until you get to i = 0.

Colin Popell - 7 years, 9 months ago
René Christensen
Aug 20, 2013

Let the number of leaves on the tree after the n n 'th wind be l ( n ) l(n) . We known, that half the leaves will fall plus an additional 10. That means that our equation becomes l ( n + 1 ) = 1 2 l ( n ) 10 l(n+1)=\frac{1}{2} l(n)-10 . This is a first order inhomogenous differential equation , and it can be shown that a solution to a such equation on the form x ( n + 1 ) a x ( n ) = c x(n+1)-ax(n)=c is given by: x ( n ) = a n x ( 0 ) + c k = 0 n 1 a k x(n)=a^n x(0) + c \displaystyle\sum^{n-1}_{k=0} a^k .

In this case we get:

l ( 3 ) = 1 2 3 x ( 0 ) 10 ( 1 2 0 + 1 2 1 + 1 2 2 ) = 0 l(3)=\frac{1}{2} ^3 x(0)-10(\frac{1}{2} ^0 +\frac{1}{2} ^1 +\frac{1}{2} ^2)=0 ,

and solving this for l ( 0 ) l(0) , we get l ( n ) = 140 l(n)=140

Moderator note:

Nice reference to further theory, though the solution form could be simplified using the geometric progression.

please i don't understund this way can you help me to get the way of your work and the plan which you work it

Laura Al-taib - 7 years, 9 months ago

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I can try. We use l ( n ) l(n) to describe the number of leaves on the tree, when the n n 'th wind has blown - that is, if we count the number of leaves on the tree after the first wind, we call this l ( 1 ) l(1) , and so on.

In the problem it says, that for each wind half the leaves will fall, and an additional 10 will fall. In total that is 1 2 ( ( n u m b e r o f l e a v e s ) + 10 \frac{1}{2}(\text(number \ of \ leaves)+10 leaves will fall. But we already said, that we call the number of leaves l ( n ) l(n) . So, the number of leaves after the Next wind will be:

( l e a v e s a f t e r n e x t w i n d ) = ( l e a v e s b e f o r e ) ( l e a v e s t h a t f a l l ) \text(leaves \ after \ next \ wind)=\text(leaves \ before)-\text(leaves \ that \ fall)

l ( n + 1 ) = l ( n ) ( 1 2 l ( n ) + 10 ) l(n+1)=l(n)-(\frac{1}{2}l(n)+10)

l ( n + 1 ) = 1 2 l ( n ) 10 l(n+1)=\frac{1}{2}l(n)-10

This type of equation is called a first order inhomogenous difference equation . A solution to this equation (a function you can put instead of l ( n ) l(n) to solve the equation) is given by:

l ( n + 1 ) = a n l ( 0 ) + c k = 0 n 1 a k l(n+1)=a^n l(0) + c \displaystyle \sum^{n-1}_{k=0} a^k

If you're uncertain about the sum-notation it simply means: l ( n ) = a n l ( 0 ) + c ( a 0 + a 1 + a 2 + + a n 1 ) l(n)=a^n l(0) + c (a^0+a^1+a^2+ \ldots + a^{n-1})

If the put in what we know we get the equation:

l ( 3 ) = ( 1 2 ) 3 + ( 10 ) ( ( 1 2 ) 0 + ( 1 2 ) 1 + ( 1 2 ) 2 ) l(3)=(\frac{1}{2})^3+(-10)((\frac{1}{2})^0+(\frac{1}{2})^1+(\frac{1}{2})^2)

l ( 3 ) = 1 8 l ( 0 ) 10 ( 1 + 1 2 + 1 4 ) l(3)=\frac{1}{8}l(0)-10(1+\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{4})

l ( 3 ) = 1 8 l ( 0 ) 10 ( 7 4 ) l(3)=\frac{1}{8}l(0)-10(\frac{7}{4})

We know, that l ( 3 ) = 0 l(3)=0

0 + 10 ( 7 4 ) = 1 8 l ( 0 ) 0+10(\frac{7}{4})=\frac{1}{8}l(0)

70 4 8 = l ( 0 ) \frac{70}{4}\cdot 8 = l(0)

140 = l ( 0 ) 140=l(0)

René Christensen - 7 years, 9 months ago
Justin Yang
Aug 25, 2013

Let x x be the initial number of leaves. Then, after the first gust of wind, there remain x 2 10 \frac{x}{2} - 10 leaves. After the second gust of wind, there remain x 2 10 2 10 \frac{\frac{x}{2} - 10}{2} - 10 leaves. After the third gust of wind, there remain x 2 10 2 10 2 10 = 0 \frac{\frac{\frac{x}{2} - 10}{2} - 10}{2} - 10 = 0 leaves. We solve for x, the initial number of leaves: x = 2 ( 2 ( 2 ( 10 ) + 10 ) + 10 ) = 140. x = 2\left(2\left(2\left(10\right) + 10\right) + 10\right) = 140.

Tamoghna Banerjee
Aug 20, 2013

At the third gust of wind, half of the leaves (that remained) fell along with an additional 10. With this, there remain no more leaves in the tree. Let the half remained before the third gust be x. This implies, x-10=0(since, all the leaves have fallen now.) This implies, x=10. Thus, the total number of leaves that remained before the third gust is 10+10=20. This can also be taken in another way round. After the third gust let x leaves fall and the additional 10 leaves be left on the tree. Since x is just the half of the remainder, total no. of leaves must be 10(as exactly half i.e. 10 leaves are left behind.)

Now, before the second gust let, y be the no. of leaves remaining in the tree. This implies y/2 plus an extra 10 leaves have fallen after second gust. Also, assuming the additional 10 leaves to be in the tree we have exactly 10+20=30 leaves in the tree and 30 which have fallen(as only half the remainder have fallen). Thus total no. of leaves in the tree before the second gust is 30+30=60.

Now, let the total no. of leaves in the tree before the first gust be z. Therefore, z/2+10 leaves have fallen after the first gust. Assuming the additional 10 leaves to be in the tree then we have 60+10=70 leaves in the tree after the first gust and exactly 70 have fallen after the first gust. This, implies, total no. of leaves in the tree before the first gust was 70+70=140.

Elin Daly
Aug 19, 2013

The easiest way is to start with zero and {add ten and multiply by two} three times, giving us 0, then 20, then 60, then 140.

However, I also explored this in an algebraic way as good practice, because I'm very bad at it. Let's call the starting number of leaves on the tree x , the remaining leaves after 1 gust a , the remaining leaves after 2 gusts b , and the remaining leaves after 3 gusts c . We can substitute c with 0, as we know that that is how many leaves are left after gust 3, according to the question itself. We can also form three equations form the question, which are x/2 - 10 = a ; a/2 - 10 = b ; and b/2 - 10 = c = 0 . In order to form one equation for the whole question, we place the three equations together, so that (x/2 - 10) / 2 - 10 = a/2 - 10, which in turn equals b . Furthermore, ((x/2 - 10) / 2 - 10) / 2 - 10 = b/2 - 10 = c , which in turn equals 0. So, re-written as ((x/2 - 10) / 2 - 10) / 2 - 10 = 0, we can solve for x by {adding ten and multiplying by 10} three times .

Francis Naldo
Aug 18, 2013

let x = number of leaves in the tree.. y = number of leaves after the first blow.. z = number of leaves after the second blow

after the first wind's blow,

x - [ 1 2 \frac{1}{2} x + 10 ] = y => x - 1 2 \frac{1}{2} x - 10 = y

after the second wind's blow,

y - [ 1 2 \frac{1}{2} y + 10 ] = z => y - 1 2 \frac{1}{2} y - 10 = z

after the third wind's blow,

z - [ 1 2 \frac{1}{2} z + 10 ] = 0 => z - 1 2 \frac{1}{2} z - 10 = 0

we can use the backward solution here..

so,

                z =  \\\( \\frac\{1\}\{2\} \\\)z + 10;

=> 1 2 \frac{1}{2} z = 10; => z = 20

and

                 y =  \\\( \\frac\{1\}\{2\} \\\)y + 10 + (20);

=> 1 2 \frac{1}{2} y = 30; => y = 60

and

                 x =  \\\( \\frac\{1\}\{2\} \\\)x + 10 + (60);

=> 1 2 \frac{1}{2} x = 70; => x = 140

Allan Baguio
Nov 21, 2015

Let x = initial number of leaves

At first wind blows the remaining number of

leaves = x-20 / 2

At the second blow the number of leaves

remaining = x-60 / 4

At the third blow where there were no more

leaves left = x-200+60= 0

Therefore x = 140

Madhurish Gupta
Aug 25, 2013

let the no. of leaves be 'x'. When the first gust of wind blows, 1/2x+10 are fall. remaining leaves are 1/2x-10. When the second gust of wind blows, 1/2(1/2x-10)+10 are fall after the second gust. remaining leaves after second gust are 1/4x-15. When the third gust of wind blows, 1/2(1/4x-15)+10 are fall after third gust. remaining leaves are 1/8x-35/2 . remaining leaves = 0 (given). 1/8x-35/2=0. 1/8x=35/2. x=140.........

G K
Aug 25, 2013

Assume total no. of leaves on tree = x

   No. of leaves on trees              No.of leaves fallen

After 1st gust of wind (x/2)-10 (x/2)+10

After 2nd gust of wind (x/4)-15 (x/4)+5

After 3rd gust of wind (x/8)-(35/2)
(x/8)+(35/2)

Now there are two ways available

M1: After 3 rd gust of wind there are no leaves on tree so (x/8)-(35/2)=0
x=140

M2: Take the summation of leaves fallen which is equal to the total no. of leaves on tree
so (x/2)+10+(x/4)+5+(x/8)+(5/2)=x
x=140

Barometer Nongbri
Aug 22, 2013

Take n as the number of leaves . after the first wind leaves remains = n - (n/2 +10) = n/2 - 10 leaves falling after second wind = n/4 - 5 + 10 = n/4 +5 after second wind , leaves remaining = (n/2-10) - (n/4 +5) = n/4 - 15 Leaves falling after third wind = n/8 - 15/2 + 10 = n/8 + 5/2 leaves remaining after third wind = (n/4-15) -(n/8 + 5/2) = n/8 - 35/2 Set this to 0 , n/8 - 35/2 = 0 so that n = 140

Emil Norisky
Aug 20, 2013

x 1 = 1 2 x 0 10 x 2 = 1 2 x 1 10 x 3 = 1 2 x 2 10 x_1 = \frac{1}{2} x_0 - 10 \\ x_2 = \frac{1}{2} x_1 - 10 \\ x_3 = \frac{1}{2} x_2 - 10 \\ Therefore, x 0 = 2 ( x 1 + 10 ) x 1 = 2 ( x 2 + 10 ) x 2 = 2 ( x 3 + 10 ) x_0 = 2 (x_1 + 10) \\ x_1 = 2 (x_2 + 10) \\ x_2 = 2 (x_3 + 10) \\ Therefore, x 3 = 0 x 2 = 20 x 1 = 60 x 0 = 140 x_3 = 0 \\ x_2 = 20 \\ x_1 = 60 \\ x_0 = 140

Let the total number of leaves on the tree be x. Then, after the first gust of wind, the number of leaves remaining is x/2 -10.

After the second gust of wind, the number of leaves remaining is (x/2 - 10)/2 -10 = x/4 - 5 -10 = x/4 -15.

After the third gust, the number of leaves remaining is (x/4 - 15)/2 -10 = x/8 - 15/2 -10.

According to the problem, x/8 - 15/2 - 10 = 0.

=> x/8 = 10 + 15/2 = 35/2

=> x = (35X8)/2 = 35X4 = 140.

Urfi Ramadhani
Aug 20, 2013

If we draw the situation of tree, we can get the last part of tree leafs is 10.

the last-first wind falling 20 leafs down (a part of tree and +10 [last 10 leafs])

the last-second wind falling 50 leafs down (a part of tree[20 leafs] + 10 leafs before)

the last-third wind (The first wind) falling 70 leafs down (a part of tree [without plus 10 leafs])

and the total of leaf is 20 + 50 + 70 = 140

let us assume total no of leaves in tree=x. For first gust:x-(x/2)-10=y So no of leaves remain on tree after first gust=y. Repeat the procedure for second gust:y-(y/2)-10=z. So no of leaves remain on tree after first gust=z. Repeat the procedure for third gust:z-(z/2)-10=0{given}. So find z,y,x

Witchen Hendry
Aug 19, 2013

Lets say the total is x

1st fall = 1 2 x + 10 \frac {1}{2} x + 10 , and the remain was 1 2 x 10 \frac {1}{2} x - 10

2nd fall is half and -10 from remain so it will be = 1 2 ( 1 2 x 10 ) 10 \frac {1}{2} ( \frac {1}{2} x - 10) - 10

3rd will be the half and -10 from that = 1 2 ( 1 2 ( 1 2 x 10 ) 10 ) 10 = 0 \frac {1}{2} ( \frac {1}{2} ( \frac {1}{2} x - 10) - 10) - 10 = 0

just do the math and it will get 140 ^^

Moderator note:

This solution works from the initial scenario to reach the final scenario, and the math is slightly ugly.

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