Bohr around a wire

Consider an infinitely long wire made of insulating material which carries a uniform linear charge density λ \lambda . An electron is given a suitable velocity v v at a distance of r r meters from the wire such that the electron moves in a circular orbit afterwards. Find the minimum value of r r for which the above system is stable and the electron does not radiate.

Assumptions and Hints

  • Bohr proposed that the angular momentum of an electron is quantized, so that it comes in multiples of = h / 2 π \hbar = h/2\pi .
  • The magnitude of λ \lambda is equal to the magnitude of ϵ o 200 π m e e \dfrac{\epsilon_{o}}{200\pi m_{e}e}
  • m e m_{e} is the mass of an electron.
  • e e is the charge of an electron.


The answer is 6.626E-33.

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1 solution

Josh Silverman Staff
May 29, 2015

First, we get the electric field around the wire, which is easy using Gauss' flux law

E d A = λ l ε 0 E = λ ε 0 2 π r orbit \oint \vec{E}\cdot\vec{dA} = \frac{\lambda l}{\varepsilon_0} \rightarrow E = \frac{\lambda}{\varepsilon_0 2\pi r_\text{orbit}}

even when l l goes to infinity.

The assumption we make is that the electron is kept in orbit as are satellites, through a balance of centripetal acceleration and electric attraction. Therefore, we have

m e v 2 / r orbit = e λ ε 0 2 π r orbit m_ev^2/r_\text{orbit} = \frac{e\lambda}{\varepsilon_0 2\pi r_\text{orbit}}

which leads to v = e λ ε 0 2 π m e \displaystyle v = \sqrt{\frac{e\lambda}{\varepsilon_0 2\pi m_e}} .

The key to finishing this off is the assumption of Bohr, which is that the angular momentum of a particle can only increment by integer multiples of \hbar , i.e. L = m e v r orbit = n L = m_evr_\text{orbit} = n\hbar . We've already shown that v v is independent of the radius of orbit, so r orbit r_\text{orbit} should be minimized by taking the smallest angular momentum, n = 1 n=1 .

We have m e v r = m_e v r=\hbar , thus

m e r v = m e 2 r 2 v 2 = 2 \begin{aligned} m_e r v &= \hbar \\ m_e^2r^2v^2 &=\hbar^2\end{aligned}

From here, it is important to remember that we are only dealing in magnitudes, due to the definition of λ \lambda in the problem. Reading these expressions literally will result in incorrect units.

r 2 = 2 ε 0 2 π e λ m e r 2 = 2 ε 0 2 π e m e 200 π m e e ε 0 r 2 = 2 2 π × 200 π r 2 = 100 h 2 \begin{aligned} r^2 &= \bigl| \hbar^2\frac{\varepsilon_0 2\pi}{e\lambda m_e} \bigr| \\ r^2 &= \bigl|\hbar^2 \frac{\varepsilon_0 2\pi}{e m_e} \frac{200\pi m_e e}{\varepsilon_0} \bigr| \\ r^2 &=\bigl|\hbar^2 2\pi\times 200\pi\bigr| \\ r^2 &= \bigl| 100h^2\bigr| \end{aligned}

which shows that r = 10 h r=10\lvert h\rvert m. 6.636 E 33 \approx 6.636\text{E}-33 m.

Since you are creating a wildly unphysical situation for the charge density why not pick a combination of terms that do make dimensional sense. I got the answer right away but I spent an hour rechecking it because I couldn't believe a number ~400* planck length. If you made the \lambda = e0 me c^2/(200 \pi qe) then you'd be dimensionally correct (no gotchas) and the result would be in range of atomic dimensions.

Paul Beeken - 3 years, 9 months ago

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Good point.

Peter Baumgart - 3 years, 2 months ago

I don't mean to pile on but there is another may want to entertain. When you collect a set of constants together and say "use the magnitude" you are still obligated to indicate the desired units for the final parameter and constants. in this case you should say "assume all units in SI". Dimensionally correct units would alleviate this issue.

Paul Beeken - 3 years, 9 months ago

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