Bouncing Between Rings

Two fixed circular rings, in contact with each other, stand in a vertical plane. A ball bounces elastically back and forth between the rings. Assume that air resistance is negligible and initial conditions have been set up so that the ball’s motion forever lies in one parabola. Let this parabola hit the rings at an angle θ \theta from the horizontal.

What should θ \theta be, so that the magnitude of the change in the horizontal component of the ball’s momentum at each bounce is maximum?

If the answer can be written as θ = cos 1 x , \theta=\cos^{-1}x, find the value of x . x.


The answer is 0.618034.

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1 solution

Ahmed Aljayashi
Feb 28, 2019

The collision is elastic with no other forms of resistance , so the ball will bounce with the same magnitude of horizontal velocity v x v_x
the magnitude of the change in the horizontal component of the ball’s momentum , Δ p = 2 m v x \Delta p=2mv_x

d = 2 r ( 1 c o s θ ) d=2r(1-cos\theta)

t = x ( t ) v x t=\frac{x(t)}{v_x} ........................(1) \text{........................(1)}

y ( t ) = v y t 1 2 g t 2 y(t)=v_yt-\frac{1}{2}gt^{2} ..........(2) \text{..........(2)}

at t = d v x t=\frac{d}{v_x} , y ( t ) = 0 y(t) =0 , ... sub. into eq.(2) ,

0 = v y d v x 2 g ( d v x ) 2 0=v_y\frac{d}{v_x}-2g(\frac{d}{v_x})^{2}

v x = g d v y = 2 g r ( 1 c o s θ ) 2 v s i n θ = g r ( 1 c o s θ ) v s i n θ v_x=\frac{gd}{v_y}=\frac{2gr(1-cos\theta)}{2vsin\theta} =\frac{gr(1-cos\theta)}{vsin\theta}

but v = v x c o s θ v=\frac{v_x}{cos\theta}

( v x c o s θ ) 2 = g r ( 1 c o s θ ) t a n θ (v_xcos\theta)^{2}=\frac{gr(1-cos\theta)}{tan\theta}

Now, to find the magnitude of angle θ \theta at which v x v_x is maximum we differentiate the above equation W.R.T θ \theta and equate the result to zero ,

d ( v x c o s θ ) 2 d θ = g r s i n θ t a n θ ( 1 c o s θ ) s e c 2 θ t a n 2 θ = 0 \frac{d(v_xcos\theta)^{2}}{d\theta} =gr\frac{ sin\theta\ tan\theta - (1-cos\theta) sec^{2}\theta}{tan^{2}\theta} = 0

s i n θ t a n θ ( 1 c o s θ ) s e c 2 θ = 0 sin\theta\ tan\theta - (1-cos\theta) sec^{2}\theta = 0

( 1 c o s θ ) ( c o s θ ( 1 + c o s θ ) 1 ) = 0 (1-cos\theta)(cos\theta(1+cos\theta)-1)=0

Either \text{Either} ( 1 c o s θ ) = 0 (1-cos\theta)=0 , θ = 0 , π , 2 π , . . . \theta=0 , \pi , 2\pi , ... Neglected \text{Neglected}

Or \text{Or} c o s θ ( 1 + c o s θ ) 1 = 0 cos\theta(1+cos\theta)-1=0 ==> θ = 5 1 2 0.618 \theta = \frac{\sqrt{5}-1}{2} \approx\ 0.618 YES , we can see the finger print of Golden ratio \text{YES , we can see the finger print of Golden ratio}

I think bro U are completely wrong ...eqn no (2) is wrong. then in 6th line the calculation is again wrong. answer will be 0.236 i.e. sqrt(5)-2

Swarnendu Bhattacharjee - 2 years, 2 months ago

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thanks for notifying me , actually it is just a typo in eq.(2) , the rest of calculations are correct .
eq.(2) has been corrected .

Ahmed Aljayashi - 2 years, 2 months ago

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