Bounded within what area?

Calculus Level 3

Consider all rhombuses with side length 2 whose centers are the origin and vertices lie on the coordinate axes. The area that envelopes these rhombuses can be expressed as π r \pi r . What is r r to 2 decimal places?


The answer is 1.50.

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Assume that the equation y = f ( x ) y=f(x) is the boundary of the region in 1st quadrant. Then putting a tangent at any point must give me a line segment of length 2 units.Equation of tangent at ( x 0 , f ( x 0 ) ) (x_0,f(x_0)) is y f ( x 0 ) = f ( x 0 ) ( x x 0 ) y-f(x_0)=f'(x_0)(x-x_0) If x = 0 x=0 , y = f ( x 0 ) x 0 f ( x 0 ) y=f(x_0)-x_0f'(x_0) and if y = 0 , x = x 0 f ( x 0 ) f ( x 0 ) y=0, x=x_0-\frac{f(x_0)}{f'(x_0)} . ( f ( x 0 ) x 0 f ( x 0 ) ) 2 + ( x 0 f ( x 0 ) f ( x 0 ) ) 2 = 2 2 (f(x_0)-x_0f(x_0))^2+(x_0-\frac{f(x_0)}{f'(x_0)})^2=2^2 Now say x 0 = x x_0=x And solve the differential equation. (Skipping a few steps) And the function is f ( x ) = ( 2 2 3 x 2 3 ) 3 2 f(x)=(2^{\frac{2}{3}}-x^{\frac{2}{3}})^{\frac{3}{2}} . This represents an astroid . Now all we have to do is integrate the function from 0 to 2 and then multiply it by 4 to get our answer.(Again skipping some steps). And the answer is 1.5

Best method to integrate is to use parametric coordinates followed by reduction formula. This has very less chance of making an error as you have a direct formula. Also , you could use trigonometric identities followed by integrating them but then there is a big risk of getting wrong answer.(I actually got the answer as 3 and then after many days found the error)

Moderator note:

The astroid shape here is one of the class of superellipses described by the formula

x a n + y b n = 1 \left|\frac{x}{a}\right|^n\! + \left|\frac{y}{b}\right|^n\! = 1

n = 2 n = 2 is an ordinary ellipse. Any value of n < 1 n < 1 has concave sides; the astroid in particular has n = 2 3 . n = \frac{2}{3} .

The area is not 3 π 3\pi . The area of the astroid x 2 3 + y 2 3 = a 2 3 |x|^{\frac23} + |y|^{\frac23} = a^{\frac23} is 3 8 π a 2 \tfrac38\pi a^2 . With a = 2 a=2 , this makes the area 3 2 π \tfrac32\pi . For the result, see Wikipedia. For the proof, see my report.

Mark Hennings - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Modified it. Thanks.

Ajinkya Shivashankar - 4 years, 3 months ago

when x=0 y=f(x0)- x0 f'(x0)

not x0 f(x0)... missing the ( ' )

Harout G. Vartanian - 4 years, 3 months ago

The question only specifies that the centre of the rhombus has to be the origin, not that its vertices lie on the axes. Any such rhombus can be rotated about the origin to create another such rhombus. Rather than an astroid shouldn't the figure be a circle?

Damien Ashwood - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks for bringing this up. We only want to consider the rhombuses whose vertices lie on the coordinate axes, as shown in the attached figure. I have updated the problem statement to make this clear.

Pranshu Gaba - 4 years, 3 months ago

I used clairaut equation to get the function which is relatively simpler to calculate.

subh mandal - 4 years, 2 months ago

Ajinkya's method was very clever! I don't know how to solve that differential equation though.

James Wilson - 3 years, 10 months ago
Puresky Walker
Mar 8, 2017

The side of a rhombuses is on the line x 2 cos θ + y 2 sin θ = 1 \frac{x}{2\cos\theta}+\frac{y}{2\sin\theta}=1 .

To derive the envelops, we can tilt the line a little, d θ \mathrm{d}\theta , and the new line is x 2 cos ( θ + d θ ) + y 2 sin ( θ + d θ ) = 1 \frac{x}{2\cos (\theta+d\theta)}+\frac{y}{2\sin (\theta+d\theta)}=1 .

Then we calculate out the joint point, y = 2 sin θ sin ( θ + d θ 2 ) sin ( θ + d θ ) cos d θ 2 2 sin 3 θ y=\frac{2\sin\theta \sin(\theta+\frac{\mathrm{d}\theta}{2})\sin (\theta+\mathrm{d}\theta)}{\cos \frac{d\theta}{2}}\approx 2 \sin^3\theta , x 2 cos 3 θ x\approx 2 \cos^3\theta .

For the area in the 1st quadrant, S = 0 2 y d x = 0 π 2 2 sin 3 θ d ( 2 cos 3 θ ) = 3 π 8 S=\int_{0}^{2} y\mathrm{d}x=\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}2\sin^3 \theta \mathrm{d}({2\cos^3 \theta})=\frac{3\pi}{8} . Then the total area is 3 π 2 \frac{3\pi}{2} .

Yeah this looks good, it might be worthwhile to explain how you got the first equation and how you formed the 2 approximations so that others can understand your solution clearer.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks for your consideration. Maybe I should edit this answer in an latex editor, and then paste it here. I wish someone would help me to explain this answer more clearer as considering my awkward English. Besides, the method I presented here may be more physical rather than classical.

Puresky Walker - 4 years, 3 months ago

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No, it's a good start! You just need to write more problems to get a hang of it.

Yeah, you can edit it with a LaTeX \LaTeX editor, or you can just write your solution in a piece of paper and then upload it as a solution.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't believed this answer is correct.

Esosa Uhunmwarabona - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Which part of this solution do you disagree with?

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 4 years, 3 months ago

I took a different approach to this problem. However, I believe I made a mistake because my solution didn't seem to work. It's a shame I had a solution technique but could not get the answer. I started by finding the set of lines in quadrant I: ax + (a / sqrt(2a^2-1))y = sqrt(2) (1 / sqrt(2) < a < infinity). I then use the fact that if the slope of the line is increased slightly in magnitude, then to the left of the intersection point, the perturbed line is above the original line (and to the right it is below the original line). If the magnitude of the slope is increased slightly more than before, then the intersection point travels to the left. It is then apparent that the y-values that correspond to the x-values that lie between the two intersection points are greater for the first perturbed line than either of the other two lines. This means that if one perturbs the slope in this way by less and less (iteratively), then the y-values corresponding the to the x-values that lie between the rightmost intersection point and the intersection point just to the left will be greater than the y-values of any previous line. Therefore, I decided to perturb "a" slightly by adding h. Then I solve the resulting system to find the intersection point: ax + (a / sqrt(2a^2-1))y = sqrt(2), (a+h)x + ((a+h) / sqrt(2(a+h)^2-1))y = sqrt(2). After solving the system, and finding the limit as h approaches 0 (which I used L-Hopital's Rule for), I found the set of boundary points to be: (a^3sqrt(2), (sqrt(2)(1-a^4)sqrt(2a^2-1))/a). This led me to the integral (which should've theoretically been the final answer): 24integral of a(1-a^4)sqrt(2a^2-1)da from 1/sqrt(2) to infinity. If anyone has any input on this and is willing to share, feel free! I don't have a CAS, so it's possible I simply made a calculation error.

James Wilson - 3 years, 10 months ago

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While you mean $(\frac{1}{a})^2+(\frac{\sqrt{2a^2-1}}}{a})^2$ to be 2, actually the calculation would be easier if you made that be 1, i.e., $ax+\frac{a}{\sqrt{a^2-1}y=2$, again, it will be further clear of $\frac{x}{a}+\frac{y}{\sqrt{1-a^2}=2$, which is almost the same as mine. As for your calculation, I just come out this, $(\frac{1}{a^3 sqrt{2}}, \frac{(\sqrt{2a^2-1})^3}{a^3 \sqrt{2}})$.

Puresky Walker - 3 years, 8 months ago

Your solution is better than mine though. We used the same concept, but the trigonometry may have simplified it a bit.

James Wilson - 3 years, 10 months ago

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